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August 23, 2007 We Need to Work as One Family: Sunny Deol By Subhash K. Jha
Mumbai fter delivering a hit with "Apne", the Deols have decided to become a self-contained film producing concern with elder son Sunny getting again into direction years after "Dillagi".
"We'll be consolidating our company. I'll be directing a film shortly," Sunny told IANS in an interview.
Eventually, the actor wants his father Dharmendra and brother Bobby to be part of one production house.
"The world is going global, and for us to do so we need to work as one family. So, yes, we Deols want to get together."
The big brother is quite protective about Bobby. He wants Bobby, who has lately become enormously prolific as an actor, to have the comfort of a home production at his disposal.
"These so-called friends and well-wishers of his who make films with him take him for a ride. But I've understood how these games work. And I don't want him to go through all this.
"Why even in Anil Sharma's 'Ab Tumhare Hawale Watan Saathiyo' Bobby didn't get his dues. I was too busy at that time to look into it. By the time I became aware of Bobby's role, it was too late."
Sunny has realized family comes first... and last.
"Anil Sharma is planning another film for us. We'll get directors. But we'll produce the films. So we aren't taken for a ride."
He says his period of tumult and transition is over.
"I'm much calmer now. I realize doing films isn't enough. Both critics and the masses have to love your work. With our family film 'Apne' I think we've got the formula right. It was the kind of film I wanted to see. So that's the kind of films I'd like to make."
Throwing light on his next family film, Sunny said: " 'Apne' was an emotional film. Now we'd like to a comedy together. Meanwhile, I'm ready to co-direct a film called 'Man' with Neeraj Pathak."
Promoting new talent has always been a passion for Sunny.
"I like to work with new talent. While Bobby is only interested in being an actor, I've been involved with everything from editing to screenwriting right from the time of my debut film 'Betaab'.
"But once they become established these people who start off with me move away to what they consider better prospects. But we Deols will continue to nurture new talent. I've many ideas. And I need talent to implement those ideas."
Sunny wants to make realistic films.
"But still larger-than-life, to go with my image... I see my career as having many curves. Yes, I've made many mistakes, though neglecting my career to look after my brother Bobby isn't one of them. I've been too trusting and emotional. Even now I trust people around me. But I don't have blind faith. I won't spend money on films with my eyes closed."
Post-"Gadar - Ek Prem Katha" (2001), the actor didn't enjoy much success at the box office. Most of his recent releases like "Kaafila", "Naksha" and "Jo Bole So Nihaal", turned turtle at the box office. Sunny, who also produced "Dillagi"(1999), says the mistakes as a producer and as an actor have been a learning experience.
"Life is the biggest teacher. Today I'm very clear about what I want. All people creating cinema around me have to be as disciplined as me. Except Bobby, all of us wake up early and get to work."
"So far we've all been just doing our work and letting it speak for us. But when we did 'Apne' we Deols decided that it's time we also spoke for our work."
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Sunny Deol will no longer work with other banners. He talks about renewing his own banner Vijeyta productions. He is emotionally attached to the film Apne as he would be starring with dad Dharmendra and younger brother Bobby Deol.
Sunny Deol is pretty excited these days. The promos of his ambitious film, Apne, that also stars father Dharmendra and younger brother Bobby Deol are out. The film is scheduled to release within a month?s time.
Sunny has decided that he will no longer work with other banners and concentrate on his reviving own banner Vijeyta productions.
Sunny says, ?By the end of the year I will finish all my projects and will be restarting my own banner. I am currently working on many scripts and at the end of the year we will start with a big bang. I will stop working in all the outside films and only work on films which we will be making under our banner. I don?t know if I will be directing any of the films but I will surely be creatively involved in all of them along with my dad.?
While speaking about Apne, Sunny says, ?We have said time and again that we are looking for the right subject to work together and eventually Anil Sharma came up with it. All of us immediately agreed that this is the right film for us. Apne is the kind of film which everyone will relate to. I am very emotionally attached to Apne and I am sure that everyone will love it. My father has not been working from sometime now simply because there were no scripts that could do justice to him but the moment you see him in Apne, you will see an aura around him. He is like a vulnerable child while acting and not the father we know. Ours is a close-knit family and even though we are in awe of him, all of us are comfortable working with him. In Apne he is the central character.?
What does he think of the sequel trend? Sunny says, ?I know a lot has been said about sequels and I think they are like a guarantee for success and we will definitely be producing some, depending on the right script. The financial problems are virtually taken care of and I want to finish everything off and move ahead, never to look back.?
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I'm not a saleable proposition right now: Sunny Deol IANS - 12/8/2006
Mumbai, Dec 9 (IANS) Actor Sunny Deol, who hasn't had any big hits recently, says that he is avoiding romantic films because he has become too old for them.
But he is looking forward to Chandraprakash Diwedi's historical love saga "Prithviraj-Sanjukta". "I've got the script and it's fantastic," Sunny told IANS in an interview.
But Sunny is not getting a financer for "Prithviraj-Sanjukta".
"Problem is, people aren't willing to touch good directors. I can't understand why! Unfortunately, my recent films haven't done well. As far as the market goes, I'm not a saleable proposition right now."
The actor is visibly unhappy with the influx of corporate houses in filmdom.
"They've no or little idea of the creative aspects of cinema. They can't tell a good script from bad. It's a dangerous situation."
The actor is planning to direct a film in near future.
"Yes, I'll be directing quite a lot of films once I get into the groove. I'm working on a couple of scripts. My creative thoughts are simmering."
Excerpts:
Why do you continue to be so media shy?
I've always been a very shy person. I'd rather let my work speak for me. Finally, the audience judges you by what you do rather than what you say. Talking about oneself maybe is the norm these days. But I'm happy the way I am. If people like me, fine. If they don't, how much can I convince them that I am good?
You are especially uncomfortable on television?
I'm uncomfortable in print also. I'm not good at interviews. When you sit down to express yourself, you end up saying things that you may not mean the way it sounds. You need to be a professional interviewee to say all the right things. Using the right words is an art a lot of my colleagues have mastered. I haven't. I don't want to say things that I regret doing. Shouting from rooftops doesn't suit me because that's what I'm accused of doing in my films.
You can no longer play the young romantic lead. What kind of role transition are you looking at?
I'm looking forward to doing Chandraprakash Diwedi's "Prithviraj-Sanjukta". I've got the script and it's fantastic. But the budget for that project is still not in place. Problem is, people aren't willing to touch good directors. I can't understand why! Unfortunately, my recent films haven't done well. As far as the market goes, I'm not a saleable proposition right now.
I don't think the market value of a star-actor like you would vary from Friday to Friday?
What has happened is the corporate houses have entered into the filmmaking business. They've no or little idea of the creative aspects of cinema. They can't tell a good script from bad. It's a dangerous situation. You've to do your own PR with them to convince them for a project, pamper them and flatter them.
I've spoken to dozens of these corporate houses. They've neither the confidence nor the knowledge to do any really worthy project, unless you're a big filmmaker or actor who has had a big hit last week or at the most, last month. Then they don't mind spending Rs.200-300 million without knowing what the subject is. But in a way the corporate sector is good because the quantity and variety of films have multiplied.
Don't you think this is the right time for you to produce your own films in right earnest?
Yeah. All my future projects will have my creative control completely. I'm also going into joint ventures with others. They'll handle the financial side of the film and I will handle the creative aspect of it.
I don't know how to handle money. But I've learnt my lessons. It's been a costly education for me (laughs). I'll sign a director and allow him to go on floors only when he gives me the full script at least three months before shooting.
Is your back fully healed?
It can never be fully cured. It's just something I've learnt to live with. The pain can come any time. Even a sneeze can bring it on. I don't even think about it. I'm cautious to the point of lying down if I feel even the slightest strain to the back.
Sunny Deol earlier was reckless with feelings and finances...
I know that many times my generosity has been interpreted as foolishness by the very people I helped. I can't change myself just to prove the cunning people wrong. But now I avoid people who can take advantage of me.
Have your financial problems ended?
They have. I'm on the road to recovery. Hopefully, things will get better. Earlier, I was in a real soup. I'm now getting my production house back on its feet. I'm tying up with K Sera Sera. After a couple of successes I'll feel more confident.
Would you like your sons to be actors?
My parents never forced me into movies. I'd like Bobby's and my children to also do what they want. I will guide them but I won't push them. At the moment they're too young to decide. They're interested in cinema. For now they're studying in Mumbai and doing well. I want them to be as educated as possible, so they don't make the same mistakes I did. Earning money isn't difficult. Holding on to it, is.
Cinema today seems to be changing?
Not necessarily for the better! Most films today are targeted at cities and overseas, not to the ticket paying working-class. I wouldn't call them 'masses'. I don't believe in this difference between masses and classes. But, yes, a certain class of viewers, which enjoyed heart and soul in movies, are left out.
I get really irritated by distinctions like art and commercial cinema. What's art cinema? Cinema that only a handful like! But if I like commercial films, they are art for me. These coinages are corny.
Any plans of directing another film?
Yes, I'll be directing quite a lot of films once I get into the groove. I'm working on a couple of scripts. My creative thoughts are simmering. I often find it difficult to listen to other people's ideas. That's why I need to exercise creative control over my films. From now on I'll be involved in every creative aspect of a film.
Do you think Bobby is handling his career well?
Very well. It's all about the right things happening at the right time. I don't advise him on what to do beyond a point. I can't force my ideas on him.
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"We were brought up to believe in family values" - Sunny Deol
A father and son anywhere on this earth share a relationship that defies logic. At times there is passionate love and there are times when they draw their swords. But whatever the chemistry, the underlying love for each other is amply evident in every father-son relationship.
One of the premier families of Bollywood, the Deols also share a wonderful relationship. We feature Dharmendra and Sunny Deol's enviable relationship. And Sunny firmly credits it all to the value system ingrained in him by his parents. One of the primary fundas being that becoming and remaining a good human being is much more important than being a successful person. Over to Sunny.
On values: How important is it to be a good human being to succeed? "See, you can only be what you are; you can't put up any facade for too long. I have been blessed to get parents who have rubbed on to their children a lot of values - moral, family and social. I used to wonder how my dad or mom could beat me or be so strict with me, but today I realize that all that has made me a better person!
I think that such things are very important regardless of which profession one chooses. It's important to be a good person and a good professional. For at the end of the day you have to look into the mirror and be happy! Of course, if you are happy being a bad person, that's fine! I have been brought up to believe that you are finally answerable only to yourself and to your conscience."
No fool: But are not good people taken for a ride? "'Yes," he answers. "But that doesn't mean that you should change. That's what dad says too. It happened a lot with dad, it's happened a lot with me, but it doesn't matter. I tell the person, 'I know what you are doing, and I am letting you do it. Don't think that I am a fool.'
Papa the great: How does he rate his dad as an actor and as a human being then? "To me, my dad is the best, and not because he's my dad. I mean, as a person I know that he's great, but as an actor too I know that's he's fabulous. He's done a Satyakam , he's done a Phool Aur Patthar , an Ayee Milan Ki Bela , a Bandini , a Chupke Chupke , a Sholay , a Mera Gaon Mera Desh , and a Hukumat . So he's done all kind of films and they have been successful. Other actors have not been able to be equally successful in different moulds. And that's because he would portray the characters right and get into them. It was only after the '80s and '90s that he could get good directors and subjects, so he was limited in his work.
To me, I would rate him as the best actor we ever had, better than even Dilip-saab , Amitabh Bachchan or anybody else, because I would like to see them do the variety of roles that he has done with so much justification. It was never Dharmendra the star doing a role, my dad was always portraying the specific character. With the others, it was the star-image that dominated the character. Even today, I think that the audience is dying to see him again in a good role and that's basically why I am making the film that stars all of us. You see, for six years I have been trying to convince filmmakers of making a good film with my dad, but all that they want to do is take the easy way out and make teenybopper films."
Out of sync: Magazines nowadays do not carry features on his father on the grounds that he 'doesn't sell'. What does he think of that?
"You see, these people who are passing these judgments sitting in their rooms are the people who party around in society and they need something trendy to talk about. They are totally out of sync with what the masses want to know, whom the masses love. So nobody knows what the masses want, because these people want to be in their own glory which is within them. That's the reason why such things happen - it's so stupid!
My father has been loved by the masses for over 40 years now! I consider myself lucky to have even reached half-way. And I think that it's all been possible only because of the way Bobby and I have been raised from childhood."
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Sunny Deol Vijayta Films And Sunny Deol Complete 25 Years! MovieTalkies.com, 26 October 2007
How does it feel to see two major events in your family, your banner and you completing twenty-five years as a star-actor? It gives me and everyone at home a great feeling of satisfaction and contentment to be blessed with all the things that we have achieved. But we don't believe in sitting back, we are men in action all the time, you know. We have now got all together to give Vijayta Films a new life, add our individual achievement to the common goal of reaching one common goal which is the only thing on our minds today. We have always believed in giving our best. We are trying all our ways and all out ways to better our own best.
How do you propose to bring about this big change you are planning and working for? We too have decided to go the corporate way, but not the way the corporate are exactly working today. We have our own plans. Like we don't have to run after stars with bags full of money. We have four big stars at home, my father, myself, Bobby and my talented cousin Abhay. We don't have to spend money on stars which is the main plus point on the corporate now in the game. We don't have a major problem with money too. We have our own resources. We have banks who are willing to back us, equity and other ways of generating money to make our films.
How has your corporate, the deol's corporate like I would like to call it planned to be different from the corporate who are ruling the business of film entertainment today? We are not going to just show our money power. We strongly believe that money is not the only thing that matters in the making of film. Money is very important, but money is not the only thing. That is what most of the corporate today believe, I feel. We believe that content matters, more than all the crores. We have worked out a definite plan to see that money is used in the right way, only to make quality film, films that are entirely to our liking and which we feel will appeal to the masses. We have been working on a number of scripts, hard-bound scripts as we call them. We will only go into production once our scripts is ready.
It seems that you have made a thorough study of the market and the way films are made these days? I have to. There is no other way to carry on if you have to stay in the business and work in the healthy manner. This is the best time for making good films. The market has grown. The numbers of people watching films have grown which is the big advantage for the filmmakers like us. The multiplexes are playing their own part in bringing in an audience which were keeping away people from seeing films. There is money coming in from all kinds of sources but I feel this is a phase. It will last for a while or may be longer but ultimately it is going to be a case of the survival of the fittest. There will just be a couple of big companies which will rule the industry like they are in Hollywood. The others will have to find their own way or give up. The coming together of a few serious filmmakers will help in bringing the industry together and find that sense of unity which has always been the cause of many of our problems. One of the main problems I think which can be tackled on a war path if we are all united is the crippling disease of piracy which is slowly killing the industry.
What do you think about the way the corporate are functioning today? From the little I know I think the corporate and all their men in charge must know the ways the films are actually made. They should know how and where and why their money is being spent. How can you run the business when you don't know the business you are dealing with your self?
What will be the major difference in your corporate plans? First of all we are all in the business for years. We think about films 24x7. As I told we are going to check out and double check all matters concerning a film. The first condition like I have told you is the content. All the other things will follow what the content demands. That is going to be the strong point of every film made by Vijayta Films. The script comes first, then the casting and straight into the shoot.
Who is going to be the boss of the company? No one is going to be the boss. We are all going to work together. All of us have got fully equipped to face any challenge in any sector of film making. So we will be running the company together. Whoever is associated with the film made by anyone of us will be in complete charge of the project. And we will take turns to supervise matter in general whenever we are free in films where we are not involved. It is all in the family. There are no major problems and even if they arise at any time they can be sorted out easily with just a meeting of minds, which are basically one.
How do you plan to take your first big step in this new inning? We have already lined up first four films. The first, "Champoo" will go on the floor on October 21. It is being directed by Kabir Kaushik and has Bobby in lead. Bobby is the head and so he will control all that goes into the making of the film. We will start with a five day shooting schedule which will be like a warming up exercise for the unit and go full steam ahead and we hope to release the film in May or June 2008. Then there is "Man" being co-directed by me and Neeraj Patahk, the writer of "Apne" who makes his debut as a director. Soon after "Man" we will have "Masters" starring all the three of us again after "Apne" and it will also be directed by Anil Sharma. And we have "Chhoo Mantar" to be directed by Rumi Jafeery staring Bobby and me. We have already worked out all the plans to make these four films and we will start thinking of future film when we know that we are making headway with the films we have on floor. The momentum will not stop. Vijayta Films will not stop in giving its best in all the films it makes.
There is a big difference in the way films were made and there is a big difference now. How are you going to face this new challenge? We are aware of the changes and are preparing to face any challenge. We have a combination of both the old school and the new school working as one team towards a common goal. I think this kind of combination will work very well.
It also means that all the Deol's will be busy working only in films made by your banner. What about working for other banners and filmmakers? We have freedom to do outside films provided they don't clash with the interest of our own films. Like I m doing a film "Right Yaaa Wrong" being made by Subhash Ghai because I can manage my time to do a film. My father and Bobby have same freedom to work with other filmmakers but we all will have to give first priority to our own films.
So the industry can expect more adventure from the Deol's who have always been known as an adventurous family? We are trying our best and that is our only moto, our mission. We are also adopting discipline, dedication and dignity to the work we do as our guiding forces. We have to try our very best to live up to the expectations of every one. This is possible if we stick to our goals and work honestly and sincerely. I don't think anything can or should go wrong with these values in mind and we will all try our best to keep the banner founded by my father flying high and flying higher.
Are you satisfied with the track record of Vijayta Films? There is nothing to be satisfied or regret. We have made seven films in twenty five years-"Betaab", "Arjun", "Ghayal", "Barsat", "Indian", "Dillagi"(incidentally directed by me),"Shaheed Bhagat Singh" and "Socha Na Tha" which was the last film made in 2005. All these films helped in establishing Vijayta Films as a banner. We are proud of what we have done and hope to work to be proud of in the future too.
What about your own standing as an actor after twenty five years? I have worked according to my own set principles. I have just done sixty films in all these years while others have done hundreds and god bless them, but I am happy the way I am. The one thing is that I keep on working hard with every film I do. An actor cannot afford to sit back and revel in and live on his past glory. He has to working harder without a pause.
Do you think Vijayta Film is what it is because of the tremendous goodwill your father has earned for him self? Of course, it is all because of him. We are all we are because of him. Our banner is what because of him. And whatever we do in the future will also be all because of him. He has been a pillar of strength and will always be. He has been the guiding force behind Vijayta Films without whom it is difficult to imagine what any of us would be or if whatever we have done could be possible.
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Mine is a very touching character - Sunny Deol
Courtesy: IndiaFM May 12, 2005
Jo Bole So Nihaal brings a fresh dab to Sunny Deol's mundane action hero image. Against all expectations he plays a comic role in this upcoming movie. Never seen before gullible village yokel is Sunny's character 'Nihaal Singh'. In a very candid and chatty mood Sunny speaks about the film, his breakthrough in comedy and his experience with the newcomers.
What is your character in the movie?
His only mission is to take revenge of the insult that he has faced in his village. He is a havaldar and he commits some mistake and to undo it, he has to travel to US, which he has never done before. Besides that he doesn't even know to speak English and in such situation how he completes his mission is the story of the movie.
You have been a sardar in so many movies before - you being Punjabi yourself how does it feel?
I enact the role according to the character. My background being from Punjab makes it easy to get into the character that is Punjabi because I know the atmosphere and about their feelings, so in such a case a person can perform better.
What is the genre of this film?
I would not be able to comment on this... like the promos are showing it is an entertainer, its not a serious film. Even though there is action in the movie but it is kept within the limits of an entertainer and it doesn't affect the overall feel of the film.
You have had an action hero image. How come you are venturing into comedy?
This is what the media labels, sometimes they call me an action hero, sometimes they label me as a patriotic hero, and now they think I am planning to venture into comedy. Media doesn't say that we are doing a good job. They just stamp you and treat you like you cannot do anything beyond that genre, so I don't like this labeling thing that media does.
Is this an angry young man character like the posters show?
The character may appear angry but he is also very gullible, people take undue advantage of his simplicity, which pains him.
Why do we see less of you on screen these days?
For a year I was on bed because of my back problem. Hence I have not been able to do films. This was the only film I have been able to complete.
Tell us about the comedy of the film?
Comedy of this film is not like someone cracks a joke and others stand behind him and laugh. The character is comic and the situations are comic. Mine is a very touching character, you will be able to relate with the character, you will laugh and cry with him.
How is your equation with Rahul Rawail?
My first film was with Rahul. So we share a bond and it shows in all the films that we have done. All the roles he has given me have been fantastic and very different.
What about your equation with the producer Mr. Pachisia?
We have done a lot of films till today. Since Ziddi this is our fourth film together like I always say he is a very good producer, he has passion for the movies and doesn't hold back anything.
Except you the rest of the cast is new, how was it working with them?
Everybody is new at one point but the youngsters these days are not camera shy, they do not panic in any situation and that confidence shows on the screen.
Tell us about Kamal Khan, this is his debut?
He has been very good in the film. He has got a very good personality and it comes across very well on the screen and as an actor he has done a very good job.
What do you feel about the music of the film?
The music is very good; Anand Raj Anand has done a very good job, it's very entertaining.
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I want to be an outstanding director" : Sunny Deol
Friday, August 10, 2007
Despite a series of flops at the box-office in the recent past, Sunny Deol has reason to rejoice following the critics' verdict on family drama Apne and for his role of a Pakistani freelancer in the forthcoming Kafila. Now, the actor wants to try his hand at direction. He talks about Kafila bridging the gap between India and Pakistan, his experience of working in it and his aspirations in the field of direction.
What did you like the most in Amtouz Mann's film Kafila? I liked the story which is based on the problem of illegal immigration. These days, people move to foreign lands with the help of visas. This results in intellectual immigration. At the same time, there are others who migrate illegally in search for a better life. But they end up residing in the foreign country like thieves.
Have you ever met a person who had migrated illegally? No, but then, playing a character doesn't require meeting the persons on whom the characters are based. As an actor, it's my duty to make the job of the director easy.
Tell us about your character in the film. I play a Pakistani in the film, who, like a freelancer, roams through Afganistan, Rajasthan, Bulgeria, Russia and other places, with a group of nomads.
What's the reason behind playing a Pakistani character in the film? (Laughs) Yeah... it's quite an interesting question but you have to ask it to my director.
It's said that by playing a Pakistani character you want to please the Pakistani audiences? I don't want to please anyone. I'm an actor and it's my job to portray every kind of character. I don't know who is spreading such rumours about me. Maybe the people who are doing this want to give me some message.
There were one Bulgarian and two Pakistani actors in the film. How was your experience of working with them? I enjoyed working with them. I would like to mention that all of them were newcomers. So, they had the liveliness and enthusiasm, and an intention to learn new things.
Is the film going to be released in Pakistan too? So far, whenever we have interacted with Pakistan it has been either for banduk or for business. It's a pleasure for me to state that nowadays it is more for business. And it is a part of our movie business to get our films released in Pakistan. It's better to forget the past and move ahead.
It is said that the completion of Kafila took a long time? Who says so? There's nothing like that. And even if there was any delay, it was not due to me. If people still believe otherwise, it's fine by me.
Your last film Apne couldn't leave a mark at the box-office? Apne couldn't prove itself at the box-office, but film critics, as well as the audience, liked it very much. My dream came true.
Why are you doing very few films these days? Yeah, I have reduced my working hours because of my health. Nevertheless, I have played small roles in several films in the last two or three years. I had undergone three operations for my backache and in that situation, my first priority had to be my health.
We heard that you are going to direct films? Yeah, we are going to shoot four films in the coming year. The first one is titled Man, in which I am assisted by Neeraj Pathak. I'm also playing the lead role in it, but the leading lady has not been decided yet. The second film is Chamku named after the lead character of the film, played by Bobby. It will hit the floor within a month and a half. Kabir Sadanand, the director of Sahar, will assist me in that film.
Will the three of you Deols come together again after Apne? Absolutely. It'll be in the film Masters, directed by Apne director Anil Sharma. People actually complained to us that we have made them cry in Apne. So, keeping that in mind, we have decided to make them laugh in Masters.
Your father, Dharmendra, was supposed to publish his poetry (shayaree). Please tell us about that. It's true that he has penned his experiences, both on and off screen, in his shayaree. He's going to publish them very soon.
Do you enjoy writing too? It's difficult giving my experiences a written form. Maybe after reaching his (Dharmendra's) age, I shall also start writing. As of now, it's tough to comment on it.
What would you like to do besides acting in the near future? I want to be an outstanding director. I have a dream project that I wish to accomplish. But it's better to keep mum about it right now as it's too early to speak on the subject.
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I’ve Had Clashes with Santoshi and Rahul,” says Sunny Deol [Interview by Faridoon Shahryar] Monday, September 04, 2006 “I’ve had clashes with Rahul (Rawail), Santoshi (Rajkumar), but not with Sachin,” said Sunny Deol at the recently held Press Meet of his forthcoming action adventure film ‘Naksha’ co-starring Vivek Oberoi, Sameera Reddy and Jackie Shroff. Sunny hasn’t had a big release since the controversial ‘Jo Bole So Nihal’ and except for a brief role in ‘Teesri Aankh’ there hasn’t been much to write home about the He-Man who’s delivered big hits like ‘Ghayal, ‘Ghatak’ and ‘Gadar’. To give credit to him, Sunny Pa Ji looks cool in his new hair cut and his cool demeanour is only adding to his Style-Quotient. Over to this IndiaGlitz exclusive:
Your last big film was ‘Jo Bole So Nihaal’, so why this big gap? I was not well for a long time so I couldn’t do a film. And when you start a film it takes a year to complete the film. That’s why I had a big gap. Now, every three months I will be having a release. From now on I just wish to work, work and work.
What are your thoughts on the music of your forthcoming film ‘Naksha’? The music is very foot tapping. It’s my type, the dancing type. I enjoyed it a lot. My personal favourite is ‘Jat Yamla’ because I enjoyed doing it. Even in the promos of the film you can make out that I am enjoying it.
Is it a typical Sunny Deol kind of action film? No..It’s a typical Shahrukh K….K….K…film…(Laughs) I don’t know what typical film is. It’s an action film, it’s an adventure film and I am sure everyone will like it. At the end of the day the audience won’t watch a film because of what I say or don’t say. People will watch the film if they like the promos or else they won’t watch it.
The director Sachin Bajaj is new… The director is new but you won’t feel while you watch the film that it’s made by a new director. We all had a great time. It was team work, like a picnic. The adventure film requires different locations and the conditions are such that one has to support each other, so it was a family kind of atmosphere. I like working with new directors because there’s lots of honesty and earnestness in them.
Any clashes of viewpoint with the new director? I’ve had these clashes with Rahul (Rawail), Santoshi (Rajkumar) but not here….(Bursts into laughter).
How would you describe your role? It’s an adventure film where I play a Forest Officer. Since I am the forest officer I know the terrain of the place. My step brother is hunting for something and I am not bothered till mother comes in and asks me to help him. Then there are bad elements, different locations and it starts unfolding gradually.
How’s the chemistry between you, Vivek and Sameera Reddy? The chemistry has been very good and that’s why we’ve enjoyed doing the film. It’s when the chemistry is good that’s when a film turns out to be good.
Something about the Stunts in the film Since the film requires action, it has to be done accordingly. Action is part of the scenes of the film. The action coordinator was very good as he ensured the safety measures very well. The danger element is still there because in spite of the safety measure, anything can happen. We went through the mountains, the rapids in the river…The experts lectured us about the dangers involved. Their cautious approach made us more fearful….But at the end of it all everything went well. It was great fun.
What was the most challenging stunt in Naksha? It’s not a matter of challenging or not challenging. If there are stunts that a person can do, then one does it and if I don’t want to do something then I don’t do anything of that sort.
How adventurous are you in real life? I am a sportsperson and I like adventure. I like mountains more than the sea. So, whenever I am in mountains, I go hiking.
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We’ll produce our own films: Sunny Deol August 23rd, 2007
After delivering a hit with Apne, the Deols have decided to become a self-contained film producing concern with elder son Sunny getting again into direction years after Dillagi.
“We’ll be consolidating our company. I’ll be directing a film shortly,” Sunny told IANS in an interview.
Eventually, the actor wants his father Dharmendra and brother Bobby to be part of one production house.
“The world is going global, and for us to do so we need to work as one family. So, yes, we Deols want to get together.”
The big brother is quite protective about Bobby. He wants Bobby, who has lately become enormously prolific as an actor, to have the comfort of a home production at his disposal.
“These so-called friends and well-wishers of his who make films with him take him for a ride. But I’ve understood how these games work. And I don’t want him to go through all this.
“Why even in Anil Sharma’s Ab Tumhare Hawale Watan Saathiyo Bobby didn’t get his dues. I was too busy at that time to look into it. By the time I became aware of Bobby’s role, it was too late.”
Sunny has realised family comes first… and last.
Anil Sharma is planning another film for us. We’ll get directors. But we’ll produce the films. So we aren’t taken for a ride-Sunny”Anil Sharma is planning another film for us. We’ll get directors. But we’ll produce the films. So we aren’t taken for a ride.”
He says his period of tumult and transition is over.
“I’m much calmer now. I realise doing films isn’t enough. Both critics and the masses have to love your work. With our family film Apne I think we’ve got the formula right. It was the kind of film I wanted to see. So that’s the kind of films I’d like to make.”
Throwing light on his next family film, Sunny said: ” Apne was an emotional film. Now we’d like to a comedy together. Meanwhile, I’m ready to co-direct a film called Man with Neeraj Pathak.”
Promoting new talent has always been a passion for Sunny.
“I like to work with new talent. While Bobby is only interested in being an actor, I’ve been involved with everything from editing to screenwriting right from the time of my debut film Betaab.
“But once they become established these people who start off with me move away to what they consider better prospects. But we Deols will continue to nurture new talent. I’ve many ideas. And I need talent to implement those ideas.”
Sunny wants to make realistic films.
“But still larger-than-life, to go with my image… I see my career as having many curves. Yes, I’ve made many mistakes, though neglecting my career to look after my brother Bobby isn’t one of them. I’ve been too trusting and emotional. Even now I trust people around me. But I don’t have blind faith. I won’t spend money on films with my eyes closed.”
Post-Gadar - Ek Prem Katha (2001), the actor didn’t enjoy much success at the box office. Most of his recent releases like Kaafila, Naksha and Jo Bole So Nihaal, turned turtle at the box office.
Sunny, who also produced Dillagi(1999), says the mistakes as a producer and as an actor have been a learning experience.
“Life is the biggest teacher. Today I’m very clear about what I want. All people creating cinema around me have to be as disciplined as me. Except Bobby, all of us wake up early and get to work.”
“So far we’ve all been just doing our work and letting it speak for us. But when we did Apne we Deols decided that it’s time we also spoke for our work.”
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Koffee with Karan
Nov 18, 2005
Karan: He's a super star and still extremely introverted. He likes to maintain a low profile. Many women say that in an industry full of boys, he's the only man. You are media shy and feel awkward giving an interview...
Sunny: Yes, it's true. Right now, I've come over here, but I don't know what I'll be doing. I get so nervous.
Karan: You were wild in your younger days and there were many girlfriends. And so you were packed off to London.
Sunny: Wild? Yes, when you're young, you do a lot of silly and stupid things. Now one looks back and thinks, "Why the hell did I do that?" But it was fun and one misses all that. Actually as everyone says, I'm a shy guy. And I wanted to join films. Being in India, being my dad's son, it was difficult being treated normal. All the time you're either treated over nicely or treated like shit. I just wanted to go somewhere where no one knew me. And that's why I went to London, I wasn't packed off.
Karan: And you did a course in acting in London.
Sunny: Yes, it was in Birmingham. I was in a theater called the Old Web Theater. I was there for a year and a half.
Karan: Do you think that helped at all when you came back, to face the camera in India?
Sunny: Yes, it did. I had rarely been to a studio or shooting with my dad. (laughs) So when I was over there, working on the stage… I slowly broke the ice, started getting more comfortable. And when I came back to Bombay, I was very confident. I look back and see that as the period of time I got educated with my work.
Karan: Very interestingly, your wife today, Pooja, gave you lessons in Shakespeare when you were in London. Is that true? You can't imagine - Sunny, this big action hero, taking lessons in Shakespeare with his wife! (laughs)
Sunny: (smiles) Yes, she used to help me on that because I was not aware of him at that time. I wasn't too sure about the language spoken and she being there was a great help.
Karan: So do you think your wife helped you in your vocation of acting? Sunny: Yes, she did.
Karan: He's cool, he's sophisticated, he's hip. The youngest Deol is also a Deol who can dance. So do you make your brother and your father dance to your tunes?
Bobby: I did try. Now I'm a father so I know how it feels. (smiles)
Karan: You're the only one who can share Sunny's clothes. Apparently, he's so possessive about them.
Bobby: I remember when I was in my 10th standard I sneaked into his cupboard. At that point, faded jeans in different colours were in. So I got a pair of green jeans, a green shirt and leather tie of his.
Karan: He's also your father figure, someone older that you also have respect for.
Bobby: Definitely. No brother would stop his work and give up what he's doing to launch his brother. I love him so much that I'd do anything for him and he'd do anything for me.
Karan: That is true. Sunny, you put your career on hold when Barsaat got delayed.
Sunny: Yes, I know. But the film was being made the way it had to be made. One doesn't think of all that. That was my goal then, nothing else.
Karan: There was an upswing-downswing with the film. A change in the director and script...
Sunny: Yes, it went through all that. You know, when you try too hard things do get a little difficult.
Karan: It does come across that you're very close but there are differences characteristically. Bobby is more media friendly than you. Is there some kind of an inner war against the media?
Sunny: No, it's not a war or anything. It's just that one doesn't know how to tackle it or go about it. I'd love to be like everybody else - be written about or spoken about. I get more uptight because they're putting you down all the time. I'm the kind of person who'll say, "Forget it" and run away from things.
Karan: And you, Bobby, do you think the media has behaved unfairly with you and your family?
Bobby: I think so too. But that's the way media is. They do it to everybody. I hardly speak to the media myself.
Karan: What's your take on these family dramas as you said. Films that are coming year after year like Dilwale Dulhaniya Le Jayenge or Kuch Kuch Hota Hai?
Sunny: I don't know much about what they say. But when media picks it up and says just another that kind of a film, it's not right. It's irrelevant whether it is or not. At the end of the day, you go and watch it. Don't review it and make up the minds of people who are going to watch that film.
Karan: You, Bobby, haven't had any spat with filmmakers but had one with the two Kapoor sisters, Karisma and Kareena.
Bobby: (laughs) If anything happened, I'm sure it was quite immature. We were in Singapore and witnessed a lot of things there.
Karan: But does it make it awkward? You belong to a small world really.
Bobby: That's the sad part. I don't like to be not friendly with people.
Karan: There was also the movie London, which eventually became Dillagi. It would've been the first crossover film. Now that Gurinder Chadda is so acclaimed, are there any regrets for not having made that movie.
Sunny: No regrets as such. If I had been a sensible businessman then, I wouldn't have let go of anything. I would've gone ahead and made the film. Even financially, most actors get into production and get out soon. I'm the only one who gets the beating of the financial sector again and again. (laughs) I've got so much vision. I just want to keep making films.
Date of birth: 19th October. Sun Sign: Libra My Passion: To make good cinema My ambition: To make films. I love: My mother I admire: My father I respect: My family
Tarana: Your film Apne is really doing very well. Congratulations! Sunny: Thank you.
Tarana: We heard you were the main person to make this film successful. Sunny: No, I was not the main person. As the elder son, it was my dream. No body was ready to make a film with us. We had to look for producers. But later thing went well.
Tarana: Apne is a film about giving back to your parents. So in a way you have done this film for you dad. Sunny: No, I have done nothing for my father.
Tarana: Don’t lie. Your writer had informed us that you wanted to make this film for your Dad. Sunny: I was feeling irritated as to why people were not willing to do a film with dad. On the other hand they were doing films with Amitabh Bachchan.
Tarana: Did you feel you could have written the script? Sunny: I am bad at writing.
Tarana: So now the film has released and doing well, are you satisfied? Sunny: Yes, I am really happy.
Tarana: Tell us about your emotional side. Sunny: Emotion is some thing which can’t be controlled. It depends upon situation.
Tarana: On screen your image of a hardcore angry macho man. But in real life you are a softy. You are just like a coconut. Sunny: In films it’s just acting. That does not mean that in real life you have to behave in that manner.
Tarana: You have created your image of a protective brother. In your fan letters do you receive Rakhis? Sunny: Yes, I do receive them.
Tarana: Abhay told us you are afraid of pests. Sunny: I am afraid due to hygiene reasons.
Tarana: Tell us about your fitness secret. Do you still workout? Sunny: I do exercise. I have always been active in sports. I played lots of football, cricket and squash. Recently doctors advised me to stop playing squash due to my back pain.
Tarana: So that’s the secret of you health. Are you dieting? Sunny: I am not dieting.
Tarana: You are a Punjabi. So every Sunday there must be a ritual of having butter chicken, rajma and parathas. Sunny: At home we don’t decide what is to be cooked on a particular day. For me every Sunday is a Monday. I work daily.
Tarana: I would like to ask you about your brother Bobby. In terms of personality is he a brat. Sunny: He is not really a brat. As he is younger at times he gets away.
Tarana: The youngsters at home say they are afraid of you and not Dad Sunny: There is less fear and more respect for elders. I have seen them growing. They respect me and I treat them as my kids. Due to this there is discipline.
Tarana: For a long time you had taken a break? Sunny: That’s due to my health. I had back pain and hence had to take bed rest for months together. When I was young I took my body for granted. I did a lot of stunts. At that time I didn’t realize the harm I was causing to my body.
Tarana: So Zayed Khan and Akshay Kumar beware? Sunny: Well, we shouldn’t do stunts if we are not sure of them.
Tarana: What about your films? Sunny: Now things have changed a lot. There are lots of precautions taken in terms of safety. But to do stunts, you need guts. I still do my stunts.
Tarana: So your next film is Kaafila, tell us about this film. Sunny: The concept of this film is interesting it’s about illegal immigrants. I play a Pakistani. The film will make sense to the people of the Indian sub-continent who had migrated to western countries and those who still migrate.
Tarana: In many of your films you are portrayed as a savior. Single handedly you fight the enemies of the nation. Some people even say we should send you to the border. Sunny: Everybody has an opinion. But I would like to say that we must be patriotic towards our nation.
Tarana: Dillagi was a good film but didn’t do well in the box-office. It was your debut in direction. Why didn’t you direct other films? Sunny: For direction you have to give lot of time and be patient. For one year you have to stop acting and only concentrate on one film. I could not afford this.
Tarana: Do you really like direction or acting? Sunny: I would love to do the entire film. Acting is some thing which I’ll always do. I see many of our directors who have less knowledge about many things. I am not trying to say that all are not good. Hence I’ll take up direction.
Tarana: Let’s play the word association game Tarana: Ghayal Sunny: Rajkumar Santoshi
Tarana: Amrita Singh Sunny: Spoilt brat
Tarana: London Sunny: Second home
Tarana: Veeru Sunny: Dad
Tarana: Punjab Sunny: My Home
Tarana: Dance Sunny: What is it?
Tarana: Why didn’t you learn dancing? Sunny: Men don’t dance, they make others dance. But in film I have to dance.
Tarana: Item songs Sunny: For item people.
Tarana: Balwant Rai Sunny: Amrish Puri
Tarana: Gadar Sunny: Controversy.
Tarana: Jo Bole So Nihaal. Sunny: Controversy.
Tarana: Illegal Immigration Sunny: Kaafila
Tarana: You have been quite good in this game. Sunny: Thank you.
Tarana: You have been a delight talking with. Hope to have your entire family on this show. Sunny: It’s my pleasure
(чего-то я в сомнениях :поскольку на форуме есть отдельная темка "видео-онлайн", то правильное место этому посту было бы там, но у видео-сюжета есть текст, поэтому выкладываю тут.
I SPEAK LIKE I DANCE: SUNNY DEOL
May 31, 2007
Sharing screen space with dad Dharmendra and brother Bobby Deol in Anil Sharma's Apne, has made actor Sunny Deol a very happy man. He will also be seen in the comedy caper Fool and Final. However, the actor has been keeping a low profile for sometime now. In this exclusive chat with CNN-IBN, Sunny Deol reveals all.
CNN-IBN: Why are you so media shy? Do you not like interacting with the press anymore? We get to meet you only before the release of a film these days.
Sunny Deol: I am an introvert (laughs) and I really do not know what to say because when I see people speaking, I wonder how can I really speak like that. To me, interacting with the media is like my dancing.
CNN-IBN: Apne is a film that is going to reunite the Deol family. Was it a blast going back to Punjab?
Sunny Deol: It was really great being there together and it really felt nice. It was like being home again.
CNN-IBN: After Metro, the film with which your father Dharmendra made a comeback, he says that he feels young at heart now. He said that he wants to do a Roman Holiday with Priety Zinta. How do you react to that?
Sunny Deol: (laughs) Why not, why not? Dad is one of the great actors who has been in the industry and he's got a flair for everything. He doesn't have to put any effort into his acting, so I say 'why not'!
CNN-IBN: Are you planning to take up the director's mantle and make a film of your own?
Sunny Deol: I would love to do that but not yet because of late I have been trying to consolidate my company all over again and dad and me are both determined about doing some great stuff together. We hope that by the end of this year, we will have everything set right and maybe from next year onwards we will just be making in-house films and maybe later on I may think of directing a film.
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I'm not ashamed of being emotional
IANS July 12, 2007
In the macho triumvirate, he is the taciturn Deol. While father Dharmendra and brother Bobby are ‘people’s people’, Sunny Deol is retiring. “Your work should speak for you. The day you have to speak about your work, it means things are bad,” Sunny explains.
Daddy dearest
While film-maker Sooraj Barjatya glorifies the big Indian joint family in his films, Sunny actually lives and believes in one. “It’s our way of life,” he asserts. The traditionalist, who maintains that ‘a father is a father’ reveals, “Whilst shooting for ‘Apne’ we had to let go of ‘dad’, or else it would’ve been difficult to do the film. Once the shot was over, I’d move away and everything would be the same.” The staunch son adds, “We share a similar outlook-not to hurt anybody and live with honesty.”
Hello brother
Sunny, who’s known to have given his career a ‘pause’ so that brother Bobby’s could pick up, justifies, “I did it because I wanted to do. I’ve seen Bobby grow. He’s like a son to me,” adding “Often when I’m away on location for days, Bobby just flies down to be with me.”
Macho mush
Sunny has no qualms admitting that the Deols are a sentimental bunch. “We are mirror-like. Whether we are hurt or happy- it reflects on our faces. I’m not ashamed of being emotional.”
Band of boys
Sunny, who is keen that his sons Rocky (16) and Rajvir (12) complete their education, reveals that his relationship with them is similar to his with his father. “A little distance will always remain. It was the fear of my dad that kept me on the discipline track or I could have drifted,” says Sunny who confesses being ‘very fond’ of Bobby’s sons (Aryaman and Dharam) who address him as ‘Tayaji’.
My woman
Sunny, getting expressive, also shares the influence of wife Pooja in his life, “She has brought in harmony and of course my sons. The mother’s upbringing is very important. Pooja is a good mother. She has handled everything, including my home, very well.”
A quality he admires in a woman? “It’s having the honesty to accept your shortcomings, forgiving and forgetting. That deepens bonds. Everybody has anger and frustration inside. How a woman holds the family together-that’s her test!”
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Што-та я не помню, скидывала я эту интервьюшку или нет.. ну пусть будет, чудная.. и про Бобсика
Bhai and large 17 Mar 2008
“Bobby was not a morning person but now he has started waking up early every day,” Sunny.
You are getting back into production with a bang... Yes, I was out of action because of my health but now I am fine. We have Chamku with Bobby and Priyanka releasing in June after which I will start my film The Man, starring me and Shilpa Shetty.
Is it true that you have asked Bobby Deol to lose a lot of weight for Chamku? Yes, that's because the film requires Bobby to sport a lean look.
And you wake him up every day to take him to the gym... Bobby was not a morning person but now he has started waking up early every day. I used to wake him up early for his workout. I too, need to lose weight for The Man. Sometimes, Bobby too wakes me up. In a way, we both are pushing each other to get into shape.
Do you work out together? Not really. We both go to a health club to play badminton or squash in the morning. As far as the gym is concerned, it depends on our respective schedules.
Are both of you following a specific diet to lose weight? I believe there is no shortcut to fitness. You have to exercise in order to lose weight. However, today thanks to everybody being health conscious, we are aware of what to eat and what to avoid. Bobby has been given a diet chart by his dietician. However, he needs to combine it with a healthy dose of exercise to get the lean look for his film.
You have also shot a Holi song for the film... Yes, the song is an integral part of the film. It takes the narrative forward. Although, Chamku is releasing later, we are releasing the Holi song on radio during the festival. Radio holds a special place in my heart as we grew up listening to it. Also, I didn't want to reveal the look of the film before its release.
You are foraying into direction finally.... I wanted to direct a film for a long time but was not getting the right opportunity. The Man is a film that Neeraj and I are directing together. I play a former RAW officer while Shilpa Shetty plays a popular international star in the film.
Ой, ну какая милая беседа получилась...читаешь так и представляешь их повседневные хлопоты ,подъемы по утрам, сегодня Санни ,завтра Бобсик, игра в бадминтон... СПасибки ,BobbyK
BobbyK пишет:
цитата:
скидывала я эту интервьюшку или нет
Да пускай повоторяется.....хорошего должно быть много
Отправлено: 25.07.08 09:54. Заголовок: Sunny side down Sunn..
Sunny side down Sunny Deol has not returned Rs 50 lakh to PNC, which he had received as signing amount for a shelved project two years ago. PNC has filed a case against him with IMPPA Back to Section Stories Posted On Friday, July 25, 2008
Pritish Nandy Communications and Sunny Deol are at loggerheads. The former has filed a case with the Indian Motion Pictures and Producers Association (IMPPA) against Sunny for not refunding a payment of Rs 50 lakh given to him as a signing amount two years ago, for a project which was later shelved.
PNC, in their complaint to IMPPA, has said, “PNC had signed Sunny Deol for a film and paid him Rs 50 lakh in advance for their film Aayega. However, the film did not work out. Soon after, Sunny Deol was given other scripts to read by PNC. However, he rejected all of them. Later, after a lot of dilly-dallying, Sunny stopped communicating completely with PNC. With no room for discussion on any project or the return of the signing amount, PNC was left in a lurch. Fed up, PNC eventually filed a case at IMPPA against Sunny for the refund of advance payments made to him.”
However, a source informs, “Sunny was keen to do the film Aayega and that’s why he had accepted the money. The director of the project at that time was Rohit Shetty of Golmaal fame, whom Sunny was keen to work with. But soon after the project fizzled out, Rohit bowed out of the film. This disappointed Sunny. Later Sunny did not like any of the other scripts given to him and that's why none of the projects hit the floors.”
R K Mukherjee, Vice President, PNC, said, “The complaint against Sunny Deol is a standard one, which we have lodged with the IMPPA. We would like to leave it to the IMPAA, which is a very fair body, to handle the situation and find a solution. All we want is closure and an amicable refund of our money from Mr Deol.”
Sunny Deol is currently out of the country, so we contacted his publicist Vijay Grover. Grover simply refused to comment on the issue. источник
25% shooting complete of The Man 24 Jul, 2008 06:00 am ISTlINDIATIMES MOVIES
Sunny Deol is very tight lipped about his latest directorial project, The Man. Shooting for the film in Goa was wrapped up with strict intructions to the cast and crew not to talk about the progress of the film.
Shilpa Shetty plays a diva in the film, quite like her real life character and Sunny is the dashing body guard.The film does sound quite like Kevin Costner's hit film The Bodyguard with pop superstar Whitney Houston.
Apparently, shooting of the film is going on at a brisk pace and almost 25% of its shooting is complete. The unit is taking a break right now as Sunny has given dates to Deepak Tijori for Fox. источник
Sunny gets crafty for Fox By: Shaheen ParkarDate: 2008-07-31 India: Sunny Deol is wooing a different 'crowd' these days. Known for his action roles that require him to spew lines like 'Jab yeh dhai kilo ka haath kisi pe padta hai', the actor goes in for a sleek look in Deepak Tijori's Fox.
This psychological thriller is also Deol's first project that is targetted at a multiplex audience. The actor-director's films are usually a draw in the northern belt and are popular at single screen theatres.
Kuch alag
"The audience has this certain image of him as an actor due to the kind of films he has done. But Fox portrays Sunny Deol in a new light a far cry from his known image. At the same time, we have not resorted to any distinct styling to make him look different," says Tijori who is finally working with the actor after two projects planned with him never took off. "I have been thrice lucky with Sunny but it has been well worth the wait. He has just begun shooting and it's a start-to-finish schedule."
Apart from Sunny, the cast of Fox includes Arjun Rampal, Sagarika Ghatge and Udita Goswami. "As the title implies the animal is associated with cunningness and the film's script takes on this crafty characteristic of the animal. It is a stylised thriller," adds Tijori. The film is being produced by Zee along with Rohit Kumar (son of filmmaker Mohan Kumar). It is written by Tijori as well.
From August 3, the Fox unit begins a month's schedule in Goa. "We will be shooting in north and south Goa and as it will be an outdoor shoot and we're hoping that the rains don't play spoilsport," informs Tijori who earlier directed Oops!, Khamosh... Khauff Ki Raat, Fareb and Tom Dick And Harry. источник
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I would like to direct Papa: Sunny Deol
August 16th, 2008
From being a good son, to a good brother, to a good actor and now a good director, Sunny Deol has given his hundred percent to all that he has touched ever. It’s on the occasion of the music release of Bobby Deol’s film Chamku that the three Deols get together. It’s on the same occasion that Sunny opened his heart to Rajnee Gupta about his love for films, family and fans and of course something extra…
Q. What kind of film is “Chamku” according to you? A. Today it has become a fashion for everyone to say that it is a very different film, but regarding “Chamku” I would like to say that Vijeta Films has always entertained audiences. Few of their films may have enjoyed success in a real big way and few may not but Vijeta Films is always known for making good entertainers. I am sure that “Chamku” will also prove to be a good film. I like the songs of this film a lot. Now since this is my film I will like everything related to it but the ultimate choice of liking or disliking the film is completely up to the audience only.
Q. Why Vijeta Films always is in the making of action packed films? A. It is not like that Vijeta Films is always connected with action films. If you see “Betaab“, “Socha Na Tha” and “Dillagi“, none of them is based on action. What else should I say!
Q. The title of the film reflects comedy rather than action. A. It is very difficult to relate the film with its title because the title itself is Bobby’s name. I request people not to take this film as a comedy film. I am sure that once the promo and the photographs are released, people will be able to identify the title with the film.
Q. What is the reason that Vijeta Films maintain so much gap of time between their films? A. From the very beginning Vijeta Films has been maintaining the gap of two-three years. We have not made films back to back from our production till date. But yes today all are busy making two-three films at a simultaneous run. We are also trying to make films with different and untouched topics.
Q. You were making a film on Prithviraj Chauhan with Chandraprakash Diwedi? A. It’s not true that I was about to make a film on Pithviraj Chauhan with Chandraprakash Diwedi. It’s my dream to work with him. Let’s see if we get something interesting in terms of subject then we will definitely make a film on it.
Q. Is it true that after Apne you three Deols are again coming together on the big screen? A. Yes of course. Like Apne, Papa, Bobby and me are again coming together in a film. Right now “The Man” is in making. After this we are going to make Sangeet Shivan film with Papa and Bobby. I am waiting for this film from quite a long time. The film is about how a father and a son have complaints for each other. It’s a father and son relationship which will be shown in a comic way. Then in December, Bobby and me are doing an out an out comedy film together. Then Papa, me and Bobby will be seen in Masters together which will be made by Anil Sharma. Hope that making of this film gets over by April or May in the next year.
Q. How are you enjoying direction along with acting? Tell us something about you film “The Man“. A. I have enjoyed acting very much along with direction. My next directorial film “The Man” moves around me and Shilpa. At present I am concentrating on my direction only.
Q. Don’t you wish to direct your papa ever? A. I would definitely like to direct papa if I get a chance but let me make myself capable of direction first.
Q. What are your kids doing now? Will they also join films? A. My kids have all my permissions to do whatever they feel like. If they want to join films, they will be given enough chances to prove themselves but at present they are studying. Education is very important in ones life and after completing it they are free to choose the filed they want to be in.
Q. What do you have to say about the pressure of underworld in Bollywood? A. I don’t want to speak on this at all as we have so many other topics to discuss about in our country. I feel that even if you don’t pay attention to some issues even then we can live peacefully. Because no one is doing anything in this matter, we all are only talking about this. It is better if we talk about something good and make our life happy.
Q. Have you seen your papa’s movie “Life in a… Metro“? A. (Laughing) I have only seen “Apne“. Well, it was a joke but I have not seen that film. I am very bad in films. Sometimes I don’t get to see my own films. It’s not that I don’t want to see films but I don’t have time to sit in one place for three hours and watch a movie. Many people say that papa has done a wonderful job. Hope that I get to see this movie very soon.
Q. We have heard that the sequel of the film “Ghayal” will be made. A. Yes, we wanted to make it but it’s too late now. I think that it is difficult to make a sequel of any good film.
Отправлено: 17.08.08 22:34. Заголовок: Tony вааай, спасибк..
Tony вааай, спасибки, какая классная интервьюха.. Милый, добрый Саня, как я его понимаю, особенно в этом Tony пишет:
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I don’t have time to sit in one place for three hours and watch a movie
Но Метро однако надо посмотреееть... Можно было бы для него только Дхаровы эпизоды вырезать. Tony пишет:
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What are your kids doing now?
О, в кои-то веки в интервью всплыли "kids".. гы-гы.. Хоть бы написали, сколько им лет-то.. Tony пишет:
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Hope that making of this film gets over by April or May in the next year
Ну то есть смело можно приплюсовывать еще годик.. а то и два.. кароче к концу пятилетки может быть и деждемся.. Но радует хотя бы то, что они усиленно думают в нужном направлении.. Ждем=ждем... Tony пишет:
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If you see “Betaab“, “Socha Na Tha” and “Dillagi“, none of them is based on action.
Тоник, так все-таки сам Саня не считает Бетаб экшеном, а?
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Тоник, так все-таки сам Саня не считает Бетаб экшеном, а?
ага. один в один романтическая идиллия как в Socha Na Tha и Dillagi. никаких тебе скАчек и трюков с лошадьми.
я думаю, у него просто не было времени посмотреть его целиком: "I don’t have time to sit in one place for three hours and watch a movie." потому то и помнит только первые сорок минут про Амриткины фокусы , а как его смачно в грязи валяли, уже не помнит.
Gadar у Сани то ж, небось, проходит по категории драма. никакого экшн .
Отправлено: 18.08.08 00:41. Заголовок: BobbyK пишет: Хотя в..
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Хотя в то время-то небось было время, а? каламбурчик-с..
щас добавлю . даже если у него в то время и было время, но с тех пор уже Много Времени Прошло. и помнит Санек только то, что Хочет помнить.
А хочет Саня видеть себя успешным в фильме, где был бы героем исключительно лирическим и даже комическим отчасти. это - его золотая мечта.
Так что его сравнение Betaab с романтической мелодрамой Dillagi про братскую любовь или с семейно-романтической мелодрамой Socha Na Tha про взросление юного шалопая списываю на Санькину натуру лирика. раз хочет он себя видеть в своем дебюте эдаким подобием Риши Капура из Bobby, пущай так и будет .
и из уважения к Санечке соглашусь с тем, что Betaab - романтическая мелодрама с элементами экшн. с очень вкусными и наваристыми элементами, которых там вагон и тележка.
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у меня похоже такая же память.. романтиццкую линию хорошо помню, а всякие там грязи-погони - только при некотором усилии воли..
а много ли ты вообще экшн-эпизодов помнишь у любого из твоих любимых актеров ? можешь сказать, какой экшн и в каком фильме произвел на тебя сильнейшее впечатление? разве ты когда-либо акцентировала свое внимание на экшн-сценах при просмотре фильма? девушки обычно "драки" проматывают. не за этим они фильмы смотрят.
разве в фильмах 90-х с тем же Акшаем ты особо впечатлялась его работой в экшн? смею предположить, что зацепила тебя в нем сооовсем не эта сторона его персоны, и не своими экшн-деяниями он стал для тебя привлекателен в первую очередь.
И последнее, если бы Санечкин Betaab был того же поля ягода, что Socha Na Tha и Dillagi, то и в прокате его ждала бы та же участь, что и эти фильмы.
А Betaab стал хитом. потому как предложил зрителю Героя не только романтического, но и Героя экшн. Зрелищность - сильнейшая сторона этого фильма, и обеспечили ее не только песни Сани с Амриткой под дождем .
ежели Санек думает иначе, то не удивлюсь, что через год-другой снимется он, наконец-то, в какой-нить бытовой мелодраме про супружеские отношения, да еще и с Конкошей .
я бы поглядела на это с удовольствием, хотя и знаю прекрасно, что в романтических мелодрамах Саня никогда успеха не добивался. даже Apne - это семейная мелодрама с элементами спортивной драмы (большой привет Санькиному хиту Ghayal'90. В Apne ведь совсем не случайно именно тема бокса выплыла.)
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I am very bad in films. Sometimes I don’t get to see my own films.
а вот это не есть хорошо. Саня не учится на своих ошибках и не видит чужих достижений. и это очень сильно сказывается в последнее время. именно поэтому его оптимистические заявления о очередном фильме уже лет пять расходятся с весьма плачевным конечным результатом.
Отправлено: 18.08.08 09:15. Заголовок: Tony пишет: много л..
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много ли ты вообще экшн-эпизодов помнишь у любого из твоих любимых актеров ?
уууу..... задумалась.. Ну в Барсате том же помню ж кое что.. И акшайкины красивые драки помню - без особых подробностев правда, но кое-что все-таки всплывает. Но что смотрю не за тем - эт верно. Tony пишет:
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если бы Санечкин Betaab был того же поля ягода, что Socha Na Tha и Dillagi, то и в прокате его ждала бы та же участь, что и эти фильмы.
вот кстати мысля по ходу дела - если все Деолы по сути своей неисправимые романтики и лирики, то почему романтические фильмы с их участием неизменно проваливаются? (Дхара пока в расчет не беру, совсем я не спец в его фильмографии.. Может кто просветит на его счет? )
романтические фильмы с их участием неизменно проваливаются?
С их - то видом силачей??? Романтика??? Когда рука со сковородку? Что говаривали Дхараму вначале карьеры? Идти в спорт, а не на экран.
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мелодрамой Dillagi
Кстати, у Дхарама есть точно такой же фильм с таким названием. В нем с Хемой играл школьного учителя, еще не досмотрела чем там кончилось. Хочу сравнить с Санничкиным фильмом.
Отправлено: 25.08.08 11:49. Заголовок: I’m shy, but I’ve do..
I’m shy, but I’ve done pretty well: Sunny Deol
Mumbai, August 25, 2008
Hello brother! They aren’t into banquet hall celebrations, summoning press meets or splashing their faces on billboards.. The Deols live, without any bombast, in their Juhu-Vile Parle bungalow, minding their own business and deflecting controversies. This month marks the 25th year of the Deols’ film production banner Vijeta. It will release Chamku, its back-into-business production, next Friday. Here the reclusive Sunny Deol talks about Vijeta and his dream plans to Khalid Mohamed.
Have the clouds cleared.. the debt issues resolved? I can say that the clouds are clearing.. yes. "Most of the films we’ve made have been liked by the people as well as the critics.. they’ve won awards. We’ve wanted to do sensible cinema at Vijeta.. touchwood the momentum is back." What do the last 25 years of Vijeta signify to you? They mean 25 years of me as well.. actually of all of us. We haven’t ever done rush jobs, or hacked out stuff, we’ve released seven films.. Betaab, Ghayal, Barsaat, Dillagi, Indian, Shaheed and Socha Na Tha. We’ve kept a low profile for the last five years, we talk only when there’s something to talk about. Most of the films we’ve made have been liked by the people as well as the critics.. they’ve won awards. We’ve wanted to do sensible cinema at Vijeta.. touchwood the momentum is back.
But during the last few years, you’ve had to handle financial matters. Hasn’t that taken a toll on you? Perhaps.The toll was taken in the business-handling side. I trusted people whom I shouldn’t have. Anyway, it’s been an education.
Did these ‘people’ cheat you? (Pause) Cheat? No. I blame myself. I guess I was a simpleton and will continue to be one. No one can change me. But I’ve adapted.. moulded myself to the situation today. I’ll go with the wave.. and I’ll be there in it.. because I’m a damn good swimmer who never gives up. I’ve analysed myself. I’m not good at smart talk, power lunches and the new corporate lingo. I went wrong on the management side, it was way beyond my total control and understanding at the time of Dillagi.
We didn’t have loads of money, nothing in the league of the amount that’s being spent by the limited companies. Our game plan was to make a movie.. not to manipulate anyone. That’s become a given but we still have to learn the ABCD of that. Now while marketing Chamku, I’ve done it the way I believe is honest and right.. karna padta hai. Next week, with the release, our campaign will intensify, we’ll be taking off for road shows. Earlier on, fans waited for a new film, they were hungry for a new film. Now, the audience has to be made aware that hey, we’re coming. "Cheat? No. I blame myself. I guess I was a simpleton and will continue to be one. No one can change me. But I’ve adapted.. moulded myself to the situation today. I’ll go with the wave.. and I’ll be there in it.. because I’m a damn good swimmer."
Which role are you most at ease with — an actor, director or producer? I’m a mixture. To be an actor is to opt for the easiest way of life. It’s super-comfortable. Direction means creating characters and situations.. which come alive from script to execution. Production means ensuring teamwork.. and I’ve seen that suppose you have 20 guys on board, 10 will work like crazy while the other 10 will goof off.
So what exactly is on the charts of Vijeta right now? Chamku is at top of the mind, of course right now. Then I’m directing The Man which is 20 per cent complete. Sangeeth Sivan will be directing dad and Bobby in a film. Then Bobs and I will be in a film to be directed by Sameer Karnik. And all three of us — dad, Bobs and I — will be in Masters which will be directed by Anil Sharma.
Before your dad returned in Life in a Metro and Johnny Gaddar, he was being seen in very down market films. I know. And that’s because he didn’t quite know how to say no. If someone has been nice to dad earlier on his career, he displays his gratitude immediately.
Has your kid brother grown up? Ha, ha. Of course. Bobs’ strengths are that he’s a diligent actor and has a personality. He doesn’t have to make an extra effort to look good.
Do you consider him better-looking than you? Ha ha.. of course. But neither of us is anywhere close to dad.
Whom do you depend upon the most? My family which has stood by me.
Ever been stabbed in the back? Quite a few times.. I’d get agitated at one time. But now my back is cured.. physically too it’s fine. источник
fans waited for a new film, they were hungry for a new film
вотыменна... Hungry - это мягко сказано.. Чуть-чуть проволыните, дражайшие Деолы, самих сожрем с потрохами.. Уже никакой терпячки не хватает. Ману пишет:
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But neither of us is anywhere close to dad. Санни прав, из них никто не смог повторить успех отца Дхарама. Жалко
Не, сонц, саня здесь шутливо говорит о внешнем виде: Бобсу, по его словам, не нужно прилагать экстраусилий, чтобы хорошо выглядеть, его спрашивают - вы считаете его более красивым, чем вы? Санька: ха-ха.. естессно.. Но до папы нам обоим далеко..
Бобсу, по его словам, не нужно прилагать экстраусилий
?????? и это когда Бобби заявлял, что у него что не скушает в вес откладывается? , не думаю, что Бобби легко внешний вид дается, когда сладенькое любит...
Отправлено: 25.08.08 20:47. Заголовок: Ману пишет: это ког..
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это когда Бобби заявлял, что у него что не скушает в вес откладывается?
дык одно дело, что Бобс о себе говорит, а совсем другое - что говорит о нем Саня. Ну и может по сравнению со своими собственными усилиями по поддержанию формы Санька бобсовые таковыми не считает..
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Отправлено: 25.08.08 21:08. Заголовок: Tony пишет: Q. We h..
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Q. We have heard that the sequel of the film “Ghayal” will be made. A. Yes, we wanted to make it but it’s too late now. I think that it is difficult to make a sequel of any good film.
Ну и зря Почему это слишком поздно? Агрумент, конечно, весомый, и правда сиквел хорошего фильма сделать сложновато, но если так рассуждать, сколько бы фильмов не было снято?! Бывают и очень удачные продолжения. Хоть бы попытались, что ли... Был бы еще один фильмец с Санькой...
Отправлено: 25.08.08 21:38. Заголовок: Настя пишет: это сл..
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это слишком поздно? Агрумент, конечно, весомый,
Только не сиквелы. Не надо. У них, что нет людей написать приличный сюжет под Санни или Бобби? Ежкин кот!!! Заглянули бы в глаза им, поговорили, что на сердце у них, какая заветная роль, да и сляпали эдакое. Цены бы не было!!!
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Заглянули бы в глаза им, поговорили, что на сердце у них, какая заветная роль, да и сляпали эдакое.
Так ведь соглашусь на все 100 пудов. Просто тут речь идет о том, что была задумка фильма. А я Саньку под любым соусом скушаю Пусть хоть сиквел, хоть триквел, хоть телесериал на три года. Скрытый текст
(мммм 3 года ежедневного созерцания Саньки... Вот еще одна мечта санькоманиака, похоже, надо уже эти мечты коллекционировать)
Пусть играют роли своей мечты, а похере...ой... не осуществленной идеи - жаль! Саньку хочу всякого и побольше
Не знаю. Мне всегда нравился типа из фильмов " Океан ", " Похищение "...драки как такоевые приелись. Хочется упор на характер. И вот разнопланово глянуть бы, как он был бы гадким или предателем. Сделать Ангелочком, но с червоточинкой, закружить зрителя, чтобы посочувствовал ему, а он раз и такой мальчиш - плохиш...
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Вабче, он почти такой такой в "За гранью дозволенного". Король преступного мира, но опять же с принципами моральными... Мамочки, а шо со мной делается, когда показывают его идущего твердыми неостановимыми шагами в окружении верной дружины, да замедленным кадром, да под музыку такую конкретную, знаешь, что-то наподобие заглавной темы "Бригады", но не по звучанию, а по настроению И шеи он там сворачивает очень даже ловко... Или вот "Любовь превыше всего". Из-за любви к Джу он там с ума сходит, причем в прямом смысле слова и такое творит... Короче, думается, ему "плохиша" под силу сыграть. Как бы ему эту идейку подкинуть?
Что ты!!! Нет!!! Это был добрый дядюшка, а не глава мафии. У Сунила лучше вышло, достовернее. На миг лишь показался он бякой, когда кулак занес!!! Эх, такой классный был миг!!!
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ему "плохиша" под силу сыграть. Как бы ему эту идейку подкинуть?
А вдруг не захочет? Может он не хочет репутацию испортить? Имидж Бью больно, но с толком...
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Отправлено: 25.08.08 23:03. Заголовок: Ману пишет: Что ты!..
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Что ты!!! Нет!!! Это был добрый дядюшка
Упс, а я боялась его временами... Мне он таким грозным виделся. Я вообще девочка послушная. Сказано - главарь мафии, значит, стоять бояться, упасть отжаться, а что глазенки любимые - добрые-предобрые, так это у него почти всегда такие, мы привыкшие
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А вдруг не захочет? Может он не хочет репутацию испортить?
Ой, и не говори. Поломать врага пополам о колено, разбросать трейлер авомобилей чуть не одной рукой, пригрохать в схватке десяток противников опять же одной рукой, потому как второй спасает девушку - это усе, шо нажито непосильным трудом, так нелегко доставшаяся репутация, млин... А будет все тоже самое, только добрый дяденька режиссер и такой же наидобрейший дяденька сценарист нас попытаются убедить, что Санька-плохой, и девушка - не хорошая, и машины - они угнанные... Все, закругляюсь, а то ща еще чего-нибудь непотребного наплету
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Ману , спасип за чудное интервью . только у него еще есть хвостик .
I’m shy, but I’ve done pretty well: Sunny Deol.часть вторая
Are you okay with all the directors you’ve worked with? Yeah, why?.. (Pause) I’ve worked with quite a few first-timers. Neither the director nor the actor should get possessive.. one has to move on.. and then show mutual respect at least.
Are we talking Rajkumar Santoshi? Why only him? We picked up Imtiaz Ali for Socha Na Tha.. and now he has no time for us.
So, who are your friends? At the end of the day, no one helps you when you’re in trouble. Everyone is into bluffing. They’ll say they are there but when it comes to the crunch, you’re alone.
You’re Yash Chopra’s neighbour. Does the conflict with him still rankle? All conflicts pass.. they fizzle out. I’m okay about it. It’s all so distant in the past.
Tell me, can an actor be as shy as you are? Ha, yeah I’m shy but I’ve done pretty well by being shy so far.
Any film you’re embarrassed by? Can’t say because the filmmakers won’t like it. I can just say that I wasn’t quite there in Saveraywali Gaadi.
What’s the first reaction of people when they meet you? Right off, they say that they’re missing seeing me in more movies. (Pause) I do feel that the Deols haven’t really got their dues.. they have from the people. About the media, who knows? And why?
Do your sons have the Deol looks? You bet! Rocky is 18, Rajveer is 14. After completing their education, I see them being a part of our world. I see them in cinema for sure.
Okay, any last words. (Pause) Yeah. Today everyone in films must know two very important things. (Laughs) And they are Company and Accounting laws.
Отправлено: 26.08.08 22:14. Заголовок: Tony пишет: Rocky i..
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Rocky is 18, Rajveer is 14
опаньки!!! Вот уж не знаешь, где что попадется - всего в четырех словах такая масса инфы.. Во-первых, имя Роки мне лично встречатеся впервые.. Кто-нить в курсе? Раджвир - ладно, вроде бы и раньше встречалось. И главное - возраст... Хоть что-то прояснилось..
пы.сы. И значит, он все-таки собирается пустить их в индустрию????? какие прогнозы, граждане, доживем мы с вами до сего счастливого момента, или как?
Во-первых, имя Роки мне лично встречатеся впервые..
гы... а как еще Саня мог назвать своего старшего ?
Rocky - культовое имя. Rocky 1976-го года со Сталлоне крепко запал в душу нескольким поколениям во всем мире . первый фильм Санжая то же назывался Rocky'1981, (его детский дебют - Reshma Aur Shera'71 - не в счет).
версии встречались самые разные, помню как минимум две: Ранвир и Каран..
вспомни, сколько имен у самого Санечки . у Деолов имен как рубашек, на все случаи жизни . так что Каран и Роки друг друга не исключают. просто одно - для домашнего употребления, другое - официальное.
в интервью Filmfare 02’2003 Саня говорил о старшем - Каране и младшем - Раджвире. Роки то же где-то упоминался (ежели найду - выложу)
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‘We need to be more pompous’
Tuesday, August 26, 2008
As his production company Vijeta Films celebrates its silver jubilee this year, SUNNY DEOL sifts the lessons learnt along the way, in conversation with Shubha Shetty-Saha
The ‘dhai kilo ka haath’ is intact and so are those Punjabi good looks. But those are not the only things that haven’t changed with Sunny Deol. Twenty five years in the industry and Sunny, just like father Dharmendra, still thinks with his heart.
Incidentally, Dharmendra started Vijeta Films to launch son Sunny’s career in Betaab. The company completes its silver jubilee this year. Sunny has taken over the production reins from his dad and will be releasing Chamku this week, a film aimed to resurrect younger brother Bobby Deol’s career.
Sunny admits that in the interim two decades, the Deol power has suffered a beating. “I need to run around a lot. Earlier when we made a film, people were already aware of it, as they would keep enquiring about when our company would be making another film. But now we need to throw it on them. Moreover, they will choose to watch it only if they like the feel of the film. Earlier, my fans would want to know when my films are releasing, but now times have changed.”
While he did enjoy this status, brother Bobby’s career has not really taken off as it was expected to. Sunny defends, “Bobby has always been this baby boy. Earlier dad was there. Then I came along. He came in much later. Bobby’s best has not yet been brought out. He is one of the best looking guys in the industry. He doesn’t even have to make an effort to look good.”
When quizzed whether the Deols being media shy has worked against them Sunny says, “We don’t know if our lack of PR skills have worked for or against us. That’s the way we’ve been. Right now, we need to be more pompous and upfront about what we do. But we can only adapt to a certain limit, beyond that we are not comfortable. Our work should speak for us. We don’t’ want to hype ourselves more than what our work warrants.”
Sunny agrees that perhaps they have been too emotional. “Everyone is emotional. The only difference is that while others may have a mask on, we don’t. We have always made decisions with our hearts and will continue doing so. Probably, we haven’t achieve great things like others but that won’t stop us from being what we are. I always work by instinct. I do regret when I have done something wrong and won’t repeat that…I will make a fresh mistake instead,” he laughs.
а ведь невозможно точно сказать, что говорит в Сане - безграничная братская любовь и вера, или его знание реального положения вещей (знание актерского потенциала Бобби). возможно, и то, и другое, но мне все-таки кажется, что в большей степени первое .
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мне все-таки кажется, что в большей степени первое
ну дык естественно.. Хотя все ж таки санькин опыт в индустрии со счетов не скинешь, и вполне возможно (то есть не возможно, а так оно и есть ), что он знает о Бо гораааздо больше чем мы.. Вот еще понять бы, под каким углом он его рассматривает, эх.. Вдруг с нашим не сходится??
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Отправлено: 27.08.08 17:42. Заголовок: Ох, а статья-то кака..
Ох, а статья-то какая вкусная.... Tony спасибо
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The ‘dhai kilo ka haath’ is intact and so are those Punjabi good looks.
Прелесть какая...
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Dharmendra started Vijeta Films to launch son Sunny’s career in Betaab... Sunny has taken over the production reins from his dad and will be releasing Chamku this week, a film aimed to resurrect younger brother Bobby Deol’s career.
Деолы, ваша семейственность и преданность друг другу скоро станет легендой. Отец за - сына, брат - за брата... Надо же, как написали "возрождать карьеру Бобби". А лично мне его последние роли нравятся очень и очень, пусть сами фильмы и не сыскали успеха у индийской публики. Я-то как раз думаю, что как актер он набирает замечательные обороты и растет день ото дня, а тут - возрождать...
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Earlier, my fans would want to know when my films are releasing, but now times have changed.”
Эх, Саня, только не для меня. Не надо меня убеждать идти на твои фильмы и преподносить их по особенному не надо. Я как раз из тех fans, что будут "want to know when my films are releasing" затаив дыхание и всегда, при любой погоде. Но прав он, конечно, промоушеном надо заниматься серьезно. Я ему при всем желании кассу в кинотеатрах не сделаю
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“Everyone is emotional. The only difference is that while others may have a mask on, we don’t.
И это тоже уже семейно-традиционная черта. Рыдаете, по чем зря везде, как только о семье речь заходит. Эх, какие же вы все трогательные...
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I always work by instinct. I do regret when I have done something wrong and won’t repeat that…I will make a fresh mistake instead,” he laughs.
Чудесно, то есть на старые грабли мы уже не наступим, а вот новых дров наломать - это очень даже может быть. Санечка, а может, не надо нам больше садово-огородного инвентаря?...
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Вот еще понять бы, под каким углом он его рассматривает, эх.. Вдруг с нашим не сходится??
думаю что, ой... как не сходится , с моим то точно. уж в параллельном кино Саня Бобса точно не видит. он и параллельного то в упор не видит, не то что Бобса в нем .
кстати, ежели нужна эта малюсенькая заметка, забирай к Бобсу. тут в основном о Санжу, но есть и два слова именитого фотографа Rakesh Shrestha о актерском типаже Бо. и он прав
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он и параллельного то в упор не видит, не то что Бобса в нем .
какая досада... Давай, эта, помечтаем.. Вот выдет абхашин Дев.. станет хитом (ха-ха..), Саня и увидит доброго дядьку Анурага К., и подумает - а чем черт не шутит, вроде хароший дядька.. А?
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есть и два слова именитого фотографа Rakesh Shrestha о актерском типаже Бо
это что он голливудский тип? Ну да, ну да.. Многие отмечают, что он не слишком болливуд.. Еще в самом начале его карьеры его называли итальянским красаффцем.. эхх..
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Надо же, как написали "возрождать карьеру Бобби".
ну если судить не по актерскому плану, а по кассовому, то Бобсеныш действительно плетется в хвосте.. Так что в каком-то смысле возрождать надо, весь вопрос в том, какими средствами, и куда нашего Бо направят добрые братские руки.. Хотелось бы, чтобы в нужном направлении..
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Отправлено: 27.08.08 21:41. Заголовок: BobbyK пишет: куда ..
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куда нашего Бо направят добрые братские руки.. Хотелось бы, чтобы в нужном направлении
Ну, нам об этом гадать не долго осталось Ща Chamku выйдет, а мы будем кулачки держать да за кассовыми сборами следить
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When Sunny didn’t let Shilpa sleep 28 Aug, 2008 06:15 am ISTlReena Thapar Kapoor/INDIATIMES MOVIES
Sunny Deol has found a friend in Shilpa Shetty. The two have worked together in Sunny’s home production, Indian and Apne . But it was during the shooting of Deol’s new film The Man that the two bonded.
Apparently, the unit was shooting in Goa for a song last month. After a hard day’s work, the unit members called it a day. “But Sunny had different plans,” recalls Shilpa. According to Shilpa, Sunny decided to continue with the shift because he was in a mood to shoot. “You know he is mad and obsessed with his work. He is directing the film as well, so his madness reached another level.”
But Shetty feels that it’s his madness that has taken the film to another level. “For that same song, we shot non stop for 40 hours. By the end of it, I almost fainted.”
Shetty feels that Sunny is a tough task master. “He is extremely strict about timings and is a disciplinarian. Honestly, I was a bit tired and irritated after putting in 40 long hours. But when I saw the final result, I was super happy.” That’s why they call him Sunny Deol, the perfectionist. источник
Отправлено: 28.08.08 21:00. Заголовок: Bollywood News : Sun..
Bollywood News : Sunny all out to Promote Bobby
With the release of Chamku round the corner, big brother Sunny Deol is going all out to promote the movie. These days it is Sunny , who looks after affairs and is looking into the release of Chamku, starring younger brother Bobby Deol and Priyanka Chopra. The film, which has been directed by Kabir Kaushik of Sehar, will be meeting its fate on Friday.
The production house is celebrating its silver jubilee this year. Sunny realises how times have changed and is ready to change with them. The two brothers are believed to be going all out to promote their film. Just a few days ago, the brothers were there in the Capital to promote their movie. Sunny has also widened up to the fact that the Deols are no longer the force they used to be, but one thing that he is sure of is his brother's talent. He believes that he is one of best looking guys around in the industry. Such brotherly loyalty is really touching. источник
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“You know he is mad and obsessed with his work. He is directing the film as well, so his madness reached another level.
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“For that same song, we shot non stop for 40 hours. By the end of it, I almost fainted.”
Бедная Шилпочка Санька всех уже, чую, загнал как ломовых лошадей, своим "The Man". Безумство по полной программе. Мама дорогая, что ж там такое наснимают? Я вся заинтригована до последней степени уже. Настораживает тот, факт, что вложив такие колоссальные силы в этот фильм, и так много ожидая, и если вдруг (не дай Боже, конечно), фильм не будет иметь успеха, как Санек это переживать будет?..
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Blog wars are ‘desperate’ attempts: Sunny Deol
The Deol family, one of the most prominent families of Bollywood, is known to be very close-knit and reclusive. Unlike, the flamboyant Kapoors and Bachchans, they keep a very low profile and don’t allow intrusion in their family matters. But recently, the famous Deol brothers - Sunny and Bobby were seen going places to promote their in-house production ‘Chamku’, which stars Bobby Deol in the lead role. Grabbing the opportunity, Spicezee’s Swati Chaturvedi approached the Deol brothers for a historic and exclusive ‘Bhai-Bhai’ interview for ‘Kahiye Janaab’.
Swati: Bobby, are you the naughtiest in the family, being the younger one? Sunny: (Mischieviously) Some are naughty in an obvious way, while others do not speak much, but they are naughty in a subtle manner. Bobby: Well, younger ones speak more, so people think that they are naughtier but that’s not the case.
Swati: Your father is known for not talking much, even you people let your work speak. There are blog wars going on, there are tiffs at birthday parties, your take on the chaos in filmdom? Bobby: (Feigning innocence) Is it so, you tell us. We don’t know about it. We live in a separate world. We are happy in our world and we don’t want to say anything about others lives.
Swati: An actor in his book says that your father was a real superstar. What do you say? Sunny: Absolutely, Papa came from Punjab, struggled, found his footing in the industry. He had an intense passion for acting and never did anything ‘extra’ to draw attention. He never got involved in anything else. People liked him for his work and not for anything else. As his children, we believe in letting our work do the talking.
Swati: Do you blog? What do you think of the recent blog war in the industry? Sunny: No, and I call these blog wars ‘desperate’. Basically, we don’t want to blog, wherever we go, our fans love us and that’s fine with us. Bobby: No, we don’t blog…where’s the time?
Swati: Often, in the newspapers we read anonymous stuff that Sunny was such a good actor but he spoilt his career, what do you have to say? Sunny: I don’t like reading things, I would like to see and experience first hand. When you see, you start interacting. We can’t do anything by reading the newspapers. Reading such things just irritates you and you lose your peace. So, why to read such things… Bobby: (Actively supporting big brother) At the end of the day, what matters is what gives you peace. One reads and reacts strongly, which is bound to happen because we are actors. Indians are very gullible and simple people and believe whatever the media says. They accept any kind of misleading stuff and that upsets us. Sometimes, there are strange pieces of news, for instance- Dharmendra has had a heart attack and such stuff creates panic. Media should verify the news first.
Swati: How did you react to the false news that Dharmendra has had a heart attack? Sunny & Bobby: We knew that the news was wrong and did not believe it.
Swati: Would you like to create a ‘bhai-bhai’ brand, and market yourself like the ‘Saifeena’ brand on the lines of ‘commercialising relationship’ trend? Sunny: It’s not like that. Earlier, there were not many news channels, magazines and newspapers. An actor’s life was not out in the open. Now, actors are seen all over in public, promoting themselves. Now, it is important to go out. Everyone is making a loud noise about their work, and if we whisper, no one will listen. So, if we promote our projects, then our presence will be felt a little more.
Swati: Why has Sunny Deol been missing from the big screen? Sunny: (Laughs) I was suffering from ill-health and lot of things were happening. Then, we thought of making an in-house film. Good stories were also not coming our way and the projects were not to our liking, so we thought of making our own film.
Swati: What kind of films excite you Bobby? What are your criteria for doing a film? Bobby: Good script is the basis of my choice of a film. The best thing is that we are four (Dharmendra, Sunny, Bobby and Abhay) of us, working for in-house production and we choose what attracts us. We don’t have to go out and look for others to work in our films. We take up the projects, which are to our liking.
Swati: Your father is so special to you. Even today, he has so many fans. What makes Dharmendra so special? Sunny: Well, for that you will have to ask a fan. As a son, I can say that there can’t be a better father. He is very soft-hearted but disciplined at the same time. We fear him, in the sense that we don’t want to do anything that he would not like. Bobby: My father is very special. And if you look into a fan’s eyes looking at him, you will know what I am talking about. There may be fans of other actors, but the look in their eyes, when they see my father is different. It is the ‘Dharmendra belongs to us’ look, which makes him so special.
Swati: Do you think Dharmendra is an underrated actor? Sunny: He is the most under-rated actor in the industry. He is the best India has had-best looks, great acting skills and he is a great human being but media never gave him his due. We don’t want to shout about it but he has been under-rated for sure.
Swati: There have been reports that you two asked Dharmendra not to join politics? Sunny: He himself was not so keen on joining politics. But the problem is if someone forces him, he can’t say no.
Swati: Would you like to join politics? Bobby: There is already so much of politics in the industry, we can’t handle it outside.
Swati: Bobby, do you think you lost out somewhere because your family is so isolated? Bobby: No, I don’t think so. Sunny: No, it’s nothing like that. Bobby has done a lot of blockbuster films. However, he has not been vocal about it. Others, create a great hype and fuss over their films.
Swati: What is the USP of your latest film, ‘Chamku’? Bobby: I don’t know what’s this USP thing. Basically, there are just five different story-lines but films become different because of the distinct treatment given to them. ‘Chamku’ is a different film for me as an actor. It’s an action film which has been shot very realistically. Sunny: We love doing films and we hope that you enjoy seeing it as much as we enjoyed working on it.
Swati: Would you like to say something to your fans… Sunny: Our in-house production banner Vijeyta films is celebrating its 25 years. We have always done good cinema. ‘Chamku’, is another great film and hope that you will like it.
Swati: What are your upcoming projects? Sunny: My film ‘The Man’ is due to release in October. I am working on a few more projects, one or two of my films will also release in November.
Вай, какое очумительное интервью!!! Спасибо! Просто нет слофф.. Казалось бы, все давно известно и знакомо, а каждый раз находишь что-то новое.. Ману пишет:
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We live in a separate world. We are happy in our world
Хмм.. Это канеш замечательно, но так ли уж хорошо жить в изолированном мире? Хотя им канеш виднее, я бы наверное тоже не отказалась, будь у меня такая возможность. Ману пишет:
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No, we don’t blog…where’s the time?
а жаль.. Ну хоть бы сайт запустили - уже сколько времени coming soon - и фихх.. Неужто совсем некому этим заняться? Ману пишет:
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There may be fans of other actors, but the look in their eyes, when they see my father is different. It is the ‘Dharmendra belongs to us’ look, which makes him so special.
боже мой, Бобсик, когда ты успел стать таким мудрым??? не перестаю удивляться.. Ману пишет:
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Отправлено: 01.09.08 21:30. Заголовок: Ману Спасибо, друг ..
Ману Спасибо, друг за такое замечательное интервью Масса информации к размышлению Ману пишет:
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Some are naughty in an obvious way, while others do not speak much, but they are naughty in a subtle manner.
Это значит, Бобс может и не сказать ничего против, а тихой сапой все равно сделает по-своему? Действительно, тонкая, однако, манера, "непослушания"
Вот еще показалось интересным, что ответил Санька на вопрос, о том, что некие анонимы пишут в газетах, мол, Санни, был хорошим актером, да испортил свою карьеру. Если я правильно перевела, то Санек ответил следующее: "Мне не нравится читать такие вещи. Я хотел бы видеть и получать такую информацию из первых рук. Тогда можно что-то сделать, как-то реагировать. Читая газету, ничего сделать нельзя. Такое чтиво только раздражает и ты теряешь душевное спокойствие. Так зачем это читать..." Не нравится мне такая позиция Ведь писать будут не зависимо от того, будет он читать или нет, или вообще сделает вид,что такой вещи как СМИ и в природе нет. Журналисты, газетчики как ни крути свое дело делают. Написал статью - сформировал общественное мнение. Тем более, как скажет дальше Бобби, публика в Индии очень простая и легковерная, верят всему, что СМИ говорят. Не надо раскрывать интимные подробности личной жизни и заигрывать с прессой не надо, но в отсутствии какой бы то ни было информации из первых, как говорится, рук, все что надо или не надо газетчики выдумают и скажут сами. Время изменилось, Санька сам это признает, актеры теперь публичные люди, надо как-то принимать правила игры, наверное. А наши Деолы все живут в своем замкнутом, изолированном мире и считают, что это хорошо. Хотя, скорее всего во мне говорит поклонница, охочая до любой информации о своем кумире... Вот еще одна вещь заинтересовала. Бобби говорит в ответ на вопрос о критериях, по которым фильмы выбирает. Помимо всего прочего, он гордо говорит о самодостаточности семьи даже в отношении кинопроизводства. Мол, нас четверо (Дхармендра, Бобби, Санни и Абхай) и этого достаточно, чтобы сделать собственный фильм. А Эши нету. Вот просто нету такой и все тут. Нет, такое отношение само по себе не ново, но раздражает по-прежнему Скрытый текст
(елы, даже Салман теперь в мачехе души не чает, а было время, тоже тяжко переживал вторую женщину отца)
Ведь талантливая девочка. Об этом не только ее мама, кстати, говорит. А братья ее в упор не видят. Не знаю,какие у них личные отношения, если они вообще есть, но причина такого игнора может быть и такая. Я тут по Индии ТВ "Кофе..." смотрела с Хемой. Она говорила, что Дхармендра очень сильно был против выбора дочери относительно профессии. А когда отговорить ее не удалось, то карьера Эши в семье не обсуждается вовсе. Папа просто никогда не говорит на эту тему. А Саня с Бобби папу боятся в смысле того, что не делают того, чего не хотел бы он. Скрытый текст
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We fear him, in the sense that we don’t want to do anything that he would not like.
Папу уважать - это хорошо, но как же собственное мнение?... Скрытый текст
И вообще, злая я какая-то сегодня, пойду лучше кино погляжу
цитата: We live in a separate world. We are happy in our world
*********** Хмм.. Это канеш замечательно, но так ли уж хорошо жить в изолированном мире?
Саня довольно часто говорил о том, что у него нет друзей в индустрии. и я не думаю, что это оттого, что все в ней законченные эгоисты. просто Санек сам всегда стремился избегать контактов: приехал на съемку, сделал работу и быстро уехал.
а потом на него нападает грусть, что дело его жизни - фильм Gadar обошли вниманием не только пресса и награды (действительно несправедливо), но и коллеги по цеху. Единственным, кто позвонил ему и поздравил с фантастическим кассовым успехом фильма был Санжай.
Сдаецца мне, Саня и сам то других редко поздравляет. так что уют закрытого мира Деолов имеет свою немалую долю одиночества в большом мире. и это закономерно.
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что некие анонимы пишут в газетах, мол, Санни, был хорошим актером, да испортил свою карьеру.
ага. так оно и есть. вполне понятно, что Саня читать подобные вещи не станет, чтобы не расстраиваться. он же у нас плюшевый мишка, чувствительный и уязвимый. и склонен замыкаться в себе, когда обижен. а пресса его часто обижала. так что сколько жизненного опыта Сане не давай, он все равно будет руководствоваться сначала эмоциями, а потом уже разумом.
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Мол, нас четверо (Дхармендра, Бобби, Санни и Абхай) и этого достаточно, чтобы сделать собственный фильм. А Эши нету. Вот просто нету такой и все тут. Нет, такое отношение само по себе не ново, но раздражает по-прежнему
напрягает, говоришь. смирись . иначе и быть не может. это - пенджабский мужской взгляд на вещи, тебе он может показаться примером мужского шовинизма, но уж какие есть - эти Деолы, хранители традиционных принципов . по доброй воле никто из них своих сестер, а тем более дочерей, в актрисы не пустит: девушке из хорошей семьи в мире кино делать нечего.
Так что Иша проявила самоуправство вопреки воле отца, за что и предана остракизму.
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Я тут по Индии ТВ "Кофе..." смотрела с Хемой.
... А Саня с Бобби папу боятся в смысле того, что не делают того, чего не хотел бы он. Папу уважать - это хорошо, но как же собственное мнение?...
ага, щас . Когда Сане снесло крышу из-за Димпл ему и родной папа был не указ. А вот когда Бобби запретили женихаться с Нилам, ему пришлось согласится. и это пошло ему только на пользу . так что собственное мнение у братьев Деолов - вопрос обтекаемый. а Дхарик - не диктатор по сути своей, просто упрямый очень.
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даже Салман теперь в мачехе души не чает, а было время, тоже тяжко переживал вторую женщину отца
что значит "даже"? что удивительного в том, если он любит свою мачеху как вторую мать? Салмаха что не имеет права на живые человеческие реакции? такой же как и все обычные люди. пока с Хелен ближе не познакомился, реагировал как и положено молодому человеку в подобных обстоятельствах. он же не знал поначалу, что она такая замечательная, и он так с ней споется.
а Бобс и по сей день к Хеме прохладно относится, на что имеет полное право. нельзя человека заставить полюбить. она ему не родня. и Бо был гораздо младше Саньки, когда Дхар уходил из семьи. Бо по психологии младшенький, и он нашел корень всех зол в Хеме ( при этом фигура отца осталась незыблемо обожаемой). так какие тут могут быть к нему претензии?
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Отправлено: 02.09.08 09:27. Заголовок: Tony пишет: напряга..
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напрягает, говоришь. смирись
А выбор есть? Шо мне еще остается делать? Правда, успокоиться по этому поводу все равно не смогу, у них свое пенджабское упрямство, у меня свое, русское Другое дело, что им мое упрямство глубоко параллельно
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Когда Сане снесло крышу из-за Димпл ему и родной папа был не указ.
Если бы Санек таки женился на Димпл, разговор был бы другой.
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что значит "даже"? что удивительного в том, если он любит свою мачеху как вторую мать? Салмаха что не имеет права на живые человеческие реакции? такой же как и все обычные люди.
Наверное, мне вчера не хватило сил развить свою мыслю до конца. В отношении Саллу это был одобрямс. Мол, вот с кого пример брать надо. Я попробовала провести аналогию между Салимом и Дхарамом. У обоих в жизни появилась вторая женщина. Тока Хелен дети Салима со временем приняли и полюбили. Правда, меня не оставляют смутные сомнения, была бы Хелен для Салмана такой замечательной, если бы у нее были бы дети от Салима? Фактор для ревности весьма значительный. А тут она - вторая мама. Своего рода, идиллия, как говорит BobbyK. А что с Дхариковой семьей? Помимо того, что Эшка ослушалась отца относительно актерской карьеры, не сыграл ли свою роль фактор личных отношений, обид старых за то, что отец вторую семью завел? Я ошибаюсь?
Tony пишет:
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так какие тут могут быть к нему претензии?
А почему именно к Бо? Я не в курсе, и Саня в Хеме души не чает? Да я вобщем даже не о Бо и Хеме, а об Эшке и братьях. Не знаю, воспринимают ли они ее как сестру, но то, что как актрису - нет, это очевидно.
Правда, успокоиться по этому поводу все равно не смогу, у них свое пенджабское упрямство, у меня свое, русское
у их пенджабского упрямства есть крепкая база национальной традиции, формировавшейся веками. а на чем базируется твое ?
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Если бы Санек таки женился на Димпл, разговор был бы другой.
в любом случае Саня не женился бы на Димпл. и Дхар тут не при чем. Индия не Европа: захотел - женился, захотел - развелся.
Кстати, о так называемом разводе Дхара с первой женой: Дхарик свадьбу с Хемой играл по мусульманскому обряду. Так что как ни крути, а он - двоеженец.
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Правда, меня не оставляют смутные сомнения, была бы Хелен для Салмана такой замечательной, если бы у нее были бы дети от Салима? Фактор для ревности весьма значительный.
у Хелен с Салимом приемная дочь, которую Салмаха очень любит и считает своей дочкой.
а что касается ревности, то в мусульманских семьях всякий ребенок почитается как благословение Бога, и психология ребенка, выросшего в многодетной семье, сильно отличается от психологии ребенка, у которого один брат/сестра или вовсе никого.
когда мы говорим о семейной жизни индусов, то надо всегда учитывать их национальные, религиозные традиционные особенности. Их взгляд на семейный институт отличается от привычного нам, европейского.
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А почему именно к Бо? Я не в курсе, и Саня в Хеме души не чает?
Саня поначалу артачился: он же вспыльчивый. а потом Димпла руку приложила к замирению Сани с Хемой,своей близкой подругой на тот момент. так что с Саней у Хемы никаких проблем. канешно, нет настолько близких отношений как у Салмахи с Хелен, но и особых напрягов то же нет. А вот Бо Хему обходит стороной.
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Помимо того, что Эшка ослушалась отца относительно актерской карьеры, не сыграл ли свою роль фактор личных отношений, обид старых за то, что отец вторую семью завел?
фигура отца для братьев Деолов неприкосновенна. Дхар обожаем. так что наличие второй семьи не обсуждается. Бобс может не принимать Хему сколько его душе угодно, его место в сердце Дхара не занять никому, и Бо это прекрасно знает.
Саня и Бобс - сыновья Дхара. если говорить о семейной иерархии, то Саня занимает второе место после Дхарика, Бобс - третье. при этом Саня получает самую большую долю в их семейном бизнесе, так как именно он заправляет делами. Статус всех женщин в семье ниже мужского. так что об обидах "за то, что отец вторую семью завел" тут речь идти не может.
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...Не знаю, воспринимают ли они ее как сестру, но то, что как актрису - нет, это очевидно.
естественно, они не воспринимают ее как актрису. Сестры Деолов давно выданы замуж, и от Иши ждали того же. Ее амбиции в мире кино серьезно не воспринимаются. Это вполне объяснимая позиция. Ни один из мужчин Деолов не видит своих дочерей и сестер актрисами, потому что им там не место.
а ты заметила, что Иша имеет склонность к мальчуковому поведению? девушка атлетичная, лидер по натуре. при этом она с детских лет знает что, как бы отец ее ни любил, сыновья для Дхара всегда будут на первом месте. и это не просто сердечная склонность отца. это еще и Традиция. социальный и семейный статус у дочек ниже. родись Иша мальчиком, ее жизнь была бы иной.
полагаю, что это не братья сторонятся Ишу, а наоборот. им же только остается развести руками: непослушная младшая дочь Дхарика. поэтому и избегают о ней говорить.
Отправлено: 02.09.08 20:47. Заголовок: Tony пишет: о так н..
Tony пишет:
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о так называемом разводе Дхара с первой женой:
Сонце, ну может ты чего еще скажешь на этот счет - я всегда думала, что его не было, развода, но постоянно всплывает откуда-то инфа, что был.. Честно говоря, странно было бы предполагать, что Дхар, разведясь с женой, продолжает жить вместе с ней и сыновьями в одном доме.. Да и как-то не верю я, что он мог развестись, не может такого быть потому что не может быть никогда. Тогда откуда все это?
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полагаю, что это не братья сторонятся Ишу, а наоборот
емае.. какая мысль.. И чего она мне раньше в голову не приходила? Ведь вполне возможно..
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Отправлено: 03.09.08 15:09. Заголовок: Tony пишет: у их пе..
Tony пишет:
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у их пенджабского упрямства есть крепкая база национальной традиции, формировавшейся веками. а на чем базируется твое
В принципе, не уверена, что наличие какой бы то ни было базы - это непременное условие,чтобы обладать упрямством. Пусть это будет просто черта моего характера. Ок? Другое дело, зачем я личной черте придала национальный окрас? И как теперь подвести под него базу в этом свете? (грубо говоря, как выкрутиться, отвечая на твой вопрос?). А никак. Тем более, что особенности национального русского характера – это скорее тема, минимум, кандидатской диссертации. Если честно, я не готова предложить тебе развернутую теорию, объясняющую наличие упрямства в характере русского человека. Можно, я воспользуюсь самым удобным объяснением в плане того, что русская душа – вещь вполне себе загадочная, и умом нас, как говорится, ни разу не понять?
Хотя на самом деле, в данном конкретном случае мной движут просто эмоции личного порядка. У них есть младшая сестра, пусть трепетно любят, холят ее, лелеют и всячески поддерживают (не только ее, всех сестер, конечно). Я свою в этом году потеряла. И в общем…короче, не могу писать об этом. Я надеюсь, ты понимаешь. Пусть ценят то, что имеют. Просто упрямо хочется гармонии в Деоловом семействе. Вот такая, наверное, сумбурная, база.
Tony пишет:
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в любом случае Саня не женился бы на Димпл. и Дхар тут не при чем. Индия не Европа: захотел - женился, захотел - развелся.
Как же так? Всех под одну гребенку на основании традиций, менталитета, национальных особенностей мировоззрения и морали? Нет, это ни в коем случае сбрасывать со счетов не стоит, но вот, например, Саифу все это не помешало жениться-разводиться. Не удовлетворилась я таким объяснением. А ты подробностей истории этой захватывающей под названием "Санька-Димпл" не знаешь?
Tony пишет:
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в мусульманских семьях всякий ребенок почитается как благословение Бога. ...когда мы говорим о семейной жизни индусов
Погоди, так о мусульманских семьях или семьях индусов мы говорим? Я в своем сравнении двух семей религиозные различия как раз в расчет не приняла. Запуталась я вконец. Эша братьям семья или не семья? Похоже, что она для них для всех – благословение? Ты любовь Салмана к Хелен и их с Салимом приемной дочке объясняешь «национальными, религиозными традиционными особенностями». И прохладное отношение братцев Деолов ко второй семье папы тем же самым («Традиция. социальный и семейный статус у дочек ниже», «Статус всех женщин в семье ниже мужского»). Или, надо понимать, что если бы Эша была традиционно послушной и не выходила бы из отцовской воли, то была бы так же трепетно любима братьями, как Салман любит дочку Хелен?
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а ты заметила, что Иша имеет склонность к мальчуковому поведению?
Похоже на то. Я как-то над этим раньше не задумывалась… Мне казалось, что у нее просто характер такой – решительный и целеустремленный. А потом мне стало казаться, что она изо всех сил пытается доказать (уже не отцу ли с братьями? ), что и она в киноиндустрии чего-то стоит. Лично мне нравится то, что она делает в кино. Не все подряд, конечно, но в общем – молодец. У нее, в отличие от братьев, есть в фильмографии вармистый фильм. Мой ей за это респект. На братьев я продолжаю в этом плане надеяться. Как всегда, ради разнообразия.
Отправлено: 04.09.08 03:43. Заголовок: BobbyK пишет: я в..
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я всегда думала, что его не было, развода, но постоянно всплывает откуда-то инфа, что был..
вопрос темный, так как материала, подтверждающего юридически оформленный развод Дхара, мне не встречалось. Раньше в прессе писали, что Пракаш Каур развод ему дать не согласилась, вполне допускаю, что так оно и было.
Логичный вопрос: на каком основании Дхар мог его получить?
Юридически, согласно Закону о браке 1955 года, развод возможен при строго оговоренных условиях (вариант "не сошлись характерами" тут не проходит), до этого веками в индуизме брак был, как правило, нерасторжимым, а многоженство разрешено (муж мог взять вторую жену, если, например, первая не выполняла супружеских обязанностей или муж мог требовать развода, если жена в течение восьми лет подряд не родила ни одного ребенка или одиннадцать лет подряд рожала одних девочек.Сама же женщина не могла посягнуть на развод.)
полагаю, что юридически оформленного развода с Пракаш у Дхара не было. тем более, что имеет место быть и такая вот информация:
Dharmendra’s Past Haunts His Present
Nilofar Suhrawardy, Arab News
NEW DELHI, 19 April 2004
“Had I known that I would be encountering this, I may not have joined the political race,” admitted Dharmendra, Bollywood star and BJP’s Lok Sabha candidate from Bikaner in Rajasthan. While filing the nomination papers, Dharmendra left the column requiring his wife’s name blank. Asserting that he did not do this deliberately, Dharmendra expressed that it may have slipped out of his mind. Little was Dharmendra earlier aware that “matrimonial” alliance with Hema Malini could spell political trouble for him.
The irony of it is that his “second wife” Hema Malini is a member of Rajya Sabha. In her bio-data, Hema Malini has listed Dharmendra as her husband.
Politically and legally, Dharmendra appears to have landed himself on a sticky wicket, getting out of which is not going to be an easy task. Going “garam” will not spell relief for Dharam for it is a sticky question of what his “dharma” (religion) is now, what was it earlier and what religion does his second marriage rest on? Whether for electoral reasons or otherwise, Dharmendra has claimed that his wife is Prakash Kaur.
When interviewed by a television news service on his having changed his religion to marry Hema Malini, Dharmendra aggressively denied this by saying, “I am a Hindu. The question of my having ever changed religion does not exist.” He also said, “My wife is Prakash Kaur.” But his statements on the small screen are least likely to convince at least the opposition parties.
If Dharmendra is a Hindu and Kaur is his wife legally, what is his relationship with Hema Malini? Hindu religion does not recognize a second wife, while the first wife is alive or a divorce has not taken place.
Dharmendra and Hema have two daughters. He has two sons by his first marriage. The Congress has accused Dharmendra of having violated Hindu Marriage Act and Islamic Shariah by hiding information about the “change in name and religion” for his marriage with Hema Malini.
А если все-таки развод был, в чем я сильно сомневаюсь, то зачем тогда для заключения брака с Хемой им обоим надо было переходить в другую религию? Хема и Дхар по рождению хинду.
21-го августа 1979-го года ( есть вариант - в мае 1980 года) Дхар принял ислам и под именем Dilawar Khan Kewal Krishn женился согласно мусульманскому обряду на Хеме, принявшей имя Aisha Bi R. Chakravarty.
выйти за него замуж раньше Хема не могла, так как ее родители были категорически против этого брака, только после смерти отца Хема смогла поступить по-своему, вопреки воле матери.
New Delhi: The quintessential 'Dream Girl' of Hindi cinema, Hema Malini, has revealed in a new book that her father was strongly against her marriage with Dharmendra and when she tied the knot with the actor after his death, her mother was deeply hurt. The actress-MP, who has fiercely guarded her private life from media glare, shares many intimate details of her life with journalist and film critic Bhawana Somaaya in "Hema Malini - An Authorized Biography".
This is perhaps the first time Hema candidly talks about her relationship with her parents, co-stars with whom she was linked with and her husband Dharmendra.
Hema says in the book that her father V.S.R. Chakravarti opposed the alliance with Dharmendra because he was convinced it would only bring doom. She married the actor after her father's death - a decision her mother, Jaya, didn't take kindly to.
"As far as I know, I have never intentionally hurt my mother. Except in my choice of marriage partner, perhaps. That was a tough decision for the entire family to accept. I guess the decision was inevitable," said Hema.
"It was not as if he (Dharmendra) wooed me with roses or took me for moonlight drives. At times, I feel I was attracted to him because he was so much like my mother, strong and silent," she added.
But, Hema says, neither age nor time has affected their love for each other.
"After all these years, he still looks at me like he did when we first met. He makes me feel special," she said.
In the book, she also talks about her children and her twin passions of dance and acting. It archives virtually every phase of her life.
"To agree to a biography reflects a state of mind. It means you are ready to reflect on your past actions. Part of me was ready for the exercise for I believe that not analysing meant escaping. My daughters insisted that I should. At least this way they would connect with all that happened to me when they were not a part of my life," said Hema.
Hema's journey to stardom was not an easy one. After being unceremoniously dropped from her first Tamil film as the director felt she didn't have 'star quality', she signed the Hindi film "Saudagar" in which she was paired with Raj Kapoor when just 18. She soon conquered the hearts of all moviegoers with her beauty, grace and charisma. From "Johnny Mera Naam" to "Sholay", from "Meera" to "Baghbaan", she has portrayed a diverse range of characters.
"Hema Malini..." has been published by Roli Books (P) LTD and is priced at Rs.495. It is already in the market but the publishers are planning to formally launch it March 20.
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Просто упрямо хочется гармонии в Деоловом семействе.
а кто тебе сказал, что ее там нет ? или для тебя гармония - жизнь согласно Твоим представлениям о семейных отношениях?
по-моему у Деолов все очень даже гармонично. исключение - вопрос о здоровье Дхара и Сани, а в остальном не вижу дисгармонии.
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Пусть ценят то, что имеют.
а они как раз очень ценят, то что имеют. поэтому и оберегают свой внутренний мир.
Откуда эта тяга поучить Деолов родню любить? Саня и Бобс - душевнейшие, теплые, сентиментальные, добрейшей души люди. при этом они воспитаны по определенным правилам своей культурной традиции, которая уготовила мужчинам и женщинам разные статусы в жизни семьи и общества. и свою роль в семье они видят именно с этой позиции традиционного мировоззрения. для Деола норма оберегать своих женщин от внешнего мира, и если одна из них норовит быть item-герл в мире Болливуда, то для них это - не повод для гордости.
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Всех под одну гребенку на основании традиций, менталитета, национальных особенностей мировоззрения и морали?... Не удовлетворилась я таким объяснением.
а что тебя, собственно, удивляет? мир не построен исключительно вокруг европейских ценностей, нынче ставящих права личности выше социальных институтов. индийское традиционное общество и его законы нельзя судить со своей колокольни привычных для собственной культуры принципов жизненного уклада.
Индийский институт брака/семьи - сложная, веками сформированная система, по этой теме масса инфы в сети, читай, сколько душе угодно.
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А ты подробностей истории этой захватывающей под названием "Санька-Димпл" не знаешь?
"захватывающая"? не знаю. скорее... обычная история: парень встречает Самую Прекрасную Женщину На Свете. ему не важно, что она разведена, имеет двоих детей, что он сам женат. Саньке снесло крышу по полной программе. Так же как и отец он стал жить на два дома, содержать двух женщин. Он помог Димпл в карьере при ее возвращении в Болливуд. По сей день он оказывает помощь ей и ее сестре, дочери Димпл помогают ему выбирать одежду для сыновей. Полнейшая идиллия. Свои отношения с Димпл Саня афишировать никогда не стремился. Вот и все.
По этому поводу пресса хорошенько трепала имена всего семейства Деолов и Раджеша много лет. Верить всему, что пишет индийская пресса по меньшей мере наивно, они искажают даже интервью, не то что статьи на тему. нездоровое же любопытство к личной жизни кинозвезд всегда было благодатной почвой для увеличения тиражей. так что излагать какие-либо "подробности" этой истории считаю потерей времени, слишком много было написано мусора на эту тему.
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Погоди, так о мусульманских семьях или семьях индусов мы говорим?
поясняю... в данном случае написано было о Салмане и конкретно о его отношениях с мачехой, а так же затронута тема уклада индийской семьи (мусульмане или хинду значения тут не имеет) цитирую:
Правда, меня не оставляют смутные сомнения, была бы Хелен для Салмана такой замечательной, если бы у нее были бы дети от Салима? Фактор для ревности весьма значительный .
у Хелен с Салимом приемная дочь, которую Салмаха очень любит и считает своей дочкой.
а что касается ревности, то в мусульманских семьях всякий ребенок почитается как благословение Бога, и психология ребенка, выросшего в многодетной семье, сильно отличается от психологии ребенка, у которого один брат/сестра или вовсе никого.
когда мы говорим о семейной жизни индусов, то надо всегда учитывать их национальные, религиозные традиционные особенности. Их взгляд на семейный институт отличается от привычного нам, европейского.
Салмахина семья собрала в себя несколько религий: его отец - мусульманин и сам Салман мусульманин; его мать Салма - хинду; его мачеха - католичка. поэтому я могу с полным правом говорить о Салмахиной семье как о мусульманской и индусской: Салма по сей день ходит в храм, Салман учавствует в религиозных праздниках хинду.
Салман вырос в многодетной семье, это немаловажное обстоятельство сформировало его взгляд на внутрисемейные отношения, и поэтому разговоры о ревности к возможному ребенку во втором браке отца довольно сомнительны. он принял совершенно чужого - приемного - ребенка как своего. неужели ты полагаешь, что он отвернулся бы от родного по крови?
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Я в своем сравнении двух семей религиозные различия как раз в расчет не приняла.
а что ты в таком случае приняла в расчет ? Деолы живут в традиционном обществе и воспитаны они по его законам.
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Эша братьям семья или не семья?
для Санни и Бобса их семья - это их дом - мама, Дхар, сестры, которые нонче живут в Америке, жены и дети, плюс многочисленные родственники по двум линиям. Числят ли они Хему частью своей семьи - не думаю, что это так. Они это делать не обязаны. Хема - часть жизни их отца. При этом заметного напряжения у Хемы с первой семьей Дхарика нет.
Скорее всего, две семьи Дхара просто существуют автономно. Дхар живет на две семьи, для Азии - это не редкость и, тем более, не повод для раздоров.
Иша и Ахана для Деолов - младшие сводные сестры, выросшие под крышей другого дома. И это существенно. Они не росли вместе, не жили одним домом, еще и поэтому у них меньше точек соприкосновения. Все всегда были при деле: Саня - активно снимающийся актер, Бобс то же дома не сидел. Иша училась и была постоянно на тренировках: танцы, спорт. У каждого своя насыщенная жизнь. К тому же сами дочки Хемы к сближению с братьями особого рвения не проявляли и эта ситуация вполне объяснима.
Кстати, со стороны самой Иши я что-то не замечала особого внимания к братьям. Она часто упоминает их имена в интервью? говорит о том, что маленькой смотрела их фильмы? восхищается ими?
я уже писала, что вполне допускаю, для Санни и Бобби Иша - непослушная младшая дочь Дхара, братья искренне полагают, что она занялась не своим делом.
Хема и ее дочери существуют в своем мире, братья Деолы - в своем: всем уютно и комфортно. не вижу причин драматизировать ситуацию .
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Ты любовь Салмана к Хелен и их с Салимом приемной дочке объясняешь «национальными, религиозными традиционными особенностями». И прохладное отношение братцев Деолов ко второй семье папы тем же самым («Традиция. социальный и семейный статус у дочек ниже», «Статус всех женщин в семье ниже мужского»).
а почему ты полагаешь, что они - эти самые особенности - тут роли не играют? воля отца и любовь к нему для патриархального общества, а индийское общество именно патриархально, - основа семейного института. Отец решает принять вторую жену, и дети от этого в истерику не впадают: воля отца - закон. и свои отношения с новой семьей отца они строят, исходя из уважения к отцу. а случается ли там нежнейшая любовь как у Салмана к Хелен - это уж кому как повезет. Если бы это Дхар женился на Хелен, а она женщина очень неординарная, то кто знает, может быть, сейчас именно Саня с Бобсом носили на руках свою мачеху .
а чем ты сама объясняешь "прохладное отношение братцев Деолов ко второй семье папы"? ревностью ? так тебе привычней? ближе и понятнее?
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Или, надо понимать, что если бы Эша была традиционно послушной и не выходила бы из отцовской воли, то была бы так же трепетно любима братьями, как Салман любит дочку Хелен?
первое: если бы Иша не подалась в актрисы, отношение к ней со стороны братьев было бы иным, без сомнения.
второе: ты хочешь противопоставить чувства Салмахи к ребенку, выросшему у него на глазах, чувствам Деолов, которые вряд ли часто видели своих сестер, да еще и попенять Сане с Бобсом: что-то вы плохо свою сестру любите ?
Саня воспринимает Абханю, да и того же Бобса как сыновей, про дочек Хемы он ничего такого не упоминал на моей памяти. из этого следует, что он их не считает сестрами? вряд ли. они - дочери его отца, поэтому Санькино покровительство им обеспечено, но они сами согласны его принять? не думаю, что тут вопрос исключительно в "прохладном" отношении Деолов.
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но вот, например, Саифу все это не помешало жениться-разводиться.
Саиф - мусульманин, мусульманский религиозный кодекс издревле допускает разводы и общество спокойно принимает их.
Развод для хинду - юридически возможен, практически - редкость, встречающая негативную оценку общества и рассматривается как позор для семьи. Таковы культурные традиции.
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А потом мне стало казаться, что она изо всех сил пытается доказать (уже не отцу ли с братьями? ), что и она в киноиндустрии чего-то стоит.
любой, кто входит в киноиндустрию старается доказать свою состоятельность. Все входящие амбициозны, они ищут успеха и признания. так что Иша не исключение, а мотивация - доказать отцу и братьям - вполне возможна, но не думаю, что она так уж существенна.
не забывай, что мать Иши - DreamGirl Болливуда, живая легенда. может, она в первую очередь Хеме хочет доказать свою состоятельность как актрисы. такой вариант тоже не исключен .
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У нее, в отличие от братьев, есть в фильмографии вармистый фильм. Мой ей за это респект.
Варма для Сани не объект мечтаний, что ему тот РамГопалыч ? он у самого Сантоши снимался . а ежели серьезно, что бы ни было на данный момент у Иши в фильмографии, ей и до Бобсовых то успехов далеко, не то что до Санькиных. пока что ее положение в индустрии весьма шаткое. нравится она тебе как актриса или не нравится... личная симпатия в этом вопросе никакой роли не играет.
пока время работает на Ишу: будет расти как актриса - прекрасно, добъется наград - хорошо. в первую очередь - для ее статуса, да и Хеме предмет для гордости.
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Откуда эта тяга поучить Деолов родню любить?
Боже упаси. Кто я такая, чтобы учить кого бы то ни было, тем более дражайших Деолов? Это просто мое желание, основанное, да, на моих личных представлениях о гармонии семейных отношений (а я разве не имею право на свою точку зрения в этом вопросе? ). Да, мне было бы отрадно видеть, что Хема и ее дочери воспринимаются братьями как семья. И чтобы Санькова с Бобсом душевность (наличие которой даже не обсуждается) и т.д. распространилась и на Эшку в том числе (и, да, согласна, со стороны Эши тоже хотелось бы наблюдать движение в ту же позитивную сторону). Этого нет в силу причин, которые ты так подробно изложила (традиции, менталитет, росли не вместе, просто не случилось любви к Хеме и т.д.). И, наверное, не будет. Пусть у Деолов свой собственный замкнутый мир, в котором им хорошо. Была бы полная идиллия, если бы этот мир не был поделен на удельные княжества, которые, как ты правильно сказала, существуют автономно (я имею в виду 2 семьи Дхарика). Смиряюсь, смиряюсь по твоему совету. И со всеми доводами твоими согласна по поводу того, почему именно так происходит. Но не позволите ли мне просто помечтать? Оттого, что нельзя изменить сложившуюся ситуацию, эта ситуация не перестанет вызывать во мне досаду (но не драму!, я по этому поводу в истерике не бьюсь) Скрытый текст
Хотя, если им и так хорошо, всем, как ты говоришь, комфортно,и все счастливы, то мне-то действительно, какой резон печалиться? А им точняк супер хорошо и комфортно именно вот так? Это вопрос риторический был Печалюсь я скорее по недостижимому идеалу семьи.
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Отец решает принять вторую жену... а случается ли там нежнейшая любовь как у Салмана к Хелен - это уж кому как повезет.
Про то и речь. Семья Салмана демонстрирует как раз ту самую семейную гармонию, по моим личным представлениям, которую хотелось бы наблюдать у Деолов. Жаль, что с ними такого везения не случилось.
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Если бы это Дхар женился на Хелен,... то кто знает, может быть, сейчас именно Саня с Бобсом носили на руках свою мачеху
А у нас тут вырисовывается альтернативный сценарий развития семейных отношений Деолов. Итак, полная гармония в Деоловом королевстве царила бы если: 1) Дхарик был бы мусульманином с рождения. 2) Второй женой у него была бы Хелен, а не Хема. 3) Эшка родилась бы мальчиком или не поперлась бы в киноиндустрию вопреки воле отца. Но история сослагательного наклонения, как известно, не терпит…Нда.
Отправлено: 04.09.08 11:53. Заголовок: елы-палы, времени не..
елы-палы, времени нет совсем, даже пять копеек вставить не успеваю.. Забежала на минутку буквально. Тоник, огромное спасибо за экскурс в Дхаровы матримониальные дела, Хемину биографию гляну непременно, вот еще бы Дхаровой дождаться..
Насчет Эши и т.д... Не думаю, что здесь существенную роль сыграло то, что она пошла в индустрию: Ахана же не пошла, а как-то нежной любови по отношению к ней тоже не наблюдается? Или я ошибаюсь?
Отправлено: 04.09.08 21:46. Заголовок: Настя пишет: а я раз..
Настя пишет:
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а я разве не имею право на свою точку зрения в этом вопросе?
свою точку зрения на все в этом мире имеет любой человек. другое дело, на чем эта точка зрения базируется? исключительно на системе ценностей, воспитанной собственной культурой, или же на принятии того факта, что в мире есть иные культурные системы и свой взгляд на тот или иной вопрос необходимо согласовывать с их особенностями. таким образом многие вещи и явления становятся понятнее. ты можешь не принимать их, но знать причины иного порядка вещей не помешает .
Настя пишет:
цитата:
полная гармония в Деоловом королевстве царила бы если: 1) Дхарик был бы мусульманином с рождения.
насчет полной гармонии в семье вполне возможно , а вот жил бы он сейчас точно не там, где он живет: дом Деолов находится в районе, где мусульманским семьям селится запрещено, не официально, канешно, но на практике типичный пример дискриминации по религиозному признаку.
Настя пишет:
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Эшка родилась бы мальчиком или не поперлась бы в киноиндустрию вопреки воле отца.
вот как раз если бы Иша родилась мальчиком, то ее в индустрию папа бы сам двигал. а сейчас для него пределом счастья было бы выдать дочек замуж. желательно в Америку или Англию.
BobbyK пишет:
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Не думаю, что здесь существенную роль сыграло то, что она пошла в индустрию: Ахана же не пошла, а как-то нежной любови по отношению к ней тоже не наблюдается? Или я ошибаюсь?
уверена, ты перечитала огромное количество Бобсовых интервьюх. Как часто он в них упоминал о своих родных сестрах? не часто. Это потому, что он их любит мало? не думаю. тогда почему ты судишь о его отношениях с Аханой исключительно по неупоминанию ее имени в его интервью? откуда эта уверенность в том, что Бобс ее и знать не хочет?
или все гораздо проще и понятнее объяснить тем, что Бо Хему игнорирует, а с ней и ее дочек?
тогда вспомни, что Иша и Ахана не только дочери Хемы, это - дочери Дхарика, а ты знаешь, как Бо и Санни относятся к отцу. когда Дхар отправится на небеса, и если девочки к тому времени еще не выйдут замуж, заботится о них придет черед Сани и Бо. ты никогда не думала о таком развитии событий?
вот если на свадьбе Аханы не будет ни Сани, ни Бобса, тогда - "да", я соглашусь с тем, что отношения у братьев Деолов с обеими дочерьми Хемы более чем прохладные, а пока что у меня нет достаточных оснований для подобных мыслей.
в целом, доступной информации об отношениях братьев Деолов к сводным сестрам минимум (об Ахане не встречала, а от вопросов об Ише Санька просто отмахивается, и я понимаю почему.) поэтому делать окончательные выводы на такой базе не считаю возможным.
Однако, в том что, решение Иши стать актрисой повлияло на отношение к ней братьев Деолов в негативную сторону уверена на сто процентов.
BobbyK, вспомни с какой еще профессией ассоциировалось ремесло актрисы/танцовщицы в недавнем прошлом, и в принципе сейчас общественное мнение по этому вопросу мало изменилось (индийское общество - общество двойных стандартов). вот именно поэтому ни один Деол не хотел видеть свою сестру или дочь в мире кино. это - не достойное занятие для девушки из приличной семьи. Салмаха, кстати, сразу объявил, что его сестры никогда актрисами не будут.
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:поскольку на форуме есть отдельная темка "видео-онлайн", то правильное место этому посту было бы там, 
ну пусть будет, чудная.. 
и про Бобсика 
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. Осталось только разобраться в ее принципах. 
Можно было бы для него только Дхаровы эпизоды вырезать. 
Tony пишет: 
, а как его смачно в грязи валяли, уже не помнит. 
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(Дхара пока в расчет не беру, совсем я не спец в его фильмографии.. Может кто просветит на его счет? 
Hungry - это мягко сказано.. Чуть-чуть проволыните, дражайшие Деолы, самих сожрем с потрохами.. 
Бью больно, но с толком... 
И главное - возраст... 
, а вот жил бы он сейчас точно не там, где он живет: дом Деолов находится в районе, где мусульманским семьям селится запрещено, не официально, канешно, но на практике типичный пример дискриминации по религиозному признаку. 
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